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By getting a little sneaky, I think the Spurs could open a boatload of salary cap space in the summer of 2013. First, let's start with next season. Here are the salaries already on the books:
Manu Ginobili: $14,107,492
Tony Parker: $12,500,000
Stephen Jackson: $10,059,750
Tiago Splitter: $3,944,000
Matt Bonner: $3,630,000
Kawhi Leonard: $1,809,840
Cory Joseph: $1,074,720
DeJuan Blair: $1,054,000
Gary Neal: $854,389
That's nine players making $49,034,191.
Let's say the Spurs bring back Danny Green for his qualifying offer of $1,060,120. Now we're at $50,094,311 for ten players.
With the MLE, the Spurs can target Erazem Lorbek. For those who don't know, he's a Euro bigman they acquired in the George Hill trade. By all accounts, he'll consider making the jump this summer. If the Spurs want him, he'll probably cost similar to Tiago Splitter money. Let's pencil him in for a first year salary of $3,500,000. (By the way, if you don't want Lorbek, subs ute this amount for a similarly priced player like Boris Diaw.)
So far, that's eleven players for $53,594,311. Let's add another league minimum player to the mix. Most likely this would be a point guard. Now we're up to $54,448,700.
That leaves the Spurs with 12 players. And now let's tackle the big fish: Tim Duncan.
Let's say Duncan wants to make $26,000,000 over the next two years. Instead of just giving him a two-year contract for that total amount, give him a one year deal worth $19,000,000. At this point, the Spurs have 13 players under contract for $73,448,700 ... or pretty much exactly what they are paying for their current roster.
Now let us move ahead to the summer of 2013. The players under contract for that season will be:
Tony Parker: $12,500,000
Erazem Lorbek: ~$3,750,000
Kawhi Leonard: $1,887,840
And that's it. Matt Bonner's buyout will be $1,000,000, which the Spurs will surely exercise. (No way they pay him four million dollars two years from now ... at least I hope not.) Joseph could be dropped if he continues to underwhelm. Blair will be a free agent. Splitter and Neal will be restricted free agents.
Now the Spurs can go back to Duncan and pay him the $7,000,000 to complete the two-year, $26,000,000 contract he hypothetically wants.
With Parker, Lorbek, Leonard, Bonner's buyout and Duncan, the Spurs would be at about $26,150,000. If the salary cap comes in at $60,000,000, that's more than $30,000,000 the Spurs have to spend on free agency. That's enough to add two max free agents or do basically anything they could want.
Of course, the Spurs could go even more drastic and cutout the Lorbek salary by instead paying top dollar on a one-year contract for a veteran bigman like Kenyon Martin or Marcus Camby. That way, the Spurs could be down to Parker, Duncan, Leonard and a bundle of salary cap space.
No matter what, the future is pretty clear. The Spurs will give it a shot this year and next year with this current group. By clearing RJ's contract completely off the books, the Spurs now have a chance to really do a lot of damage in the summer of 2013. All it'll take is a smidgen of planning and a bloated one-year contract to Duncan this summer.
Last edited by timvp; 03-16-2012 at 01:36 AM.
Thanks for the writeup Tim. 2013 will definitely be interesting as far as how the Spurs fill out their roster.
That's either too cheap or you messed up the commas...
Great writeup. Can't even fathom the Spurs without Gino though
Rewind your 2011-2012 DVR spurs games.That's either too cheap or you messed up the commas...
Great writeup. Can't even fathom the Spurs without Gino though
Thanks
Tbh, that was a kinda cool number.
If the Spurs do well in the next two years and want to extend that window a little bit, it's not too difficult to do. In fact, at any sign of true championship potential, the Spurs could decide to keep the Big 3 around until Parker's contract expires. And then massively blow it up.Great writeup. Can't even fathom the Spurs without Gino though
stll in d12 sweepstakes lmao
I hope/wish Tim could play until age 40. Barring unexpected injury, he could still be as productive as a capable 2nd big, or 3rd big later on. He stops relying on athleticism long time ago anyway.
I would be surprised if he doesn't retire after his deal is up, tbh.Thanks
Tbh, that was a kinda cool number.
If the Spurs do well in the next two years and want to extend that window a little bit, it's not too difficult to do. In fact, at any sign of true championship potential, the Spurs could decide to keep the Big 3 around until Parker's contract expires. And then massively blow it up.
Wait a god damned minute! This ain't no master plan without Matty: it's just a plan. Period. Period.
<cliche>The Spurs have the best front office in the league </cliche>
Thanks, Timvp. The future is bright, the future is silver and black.
Na. He won't. I think he has three more years left in him.. Expect him to chug along till 2014-5 before calling it a day. What all these injuries have done is that they increase his rest period and keep his motor up. Think Manu will provide a true No 6 in his final year and I fully expect him to take up coaching once he is done.
Another quality write-up!
Another hypothetical example: Let's say Lorbek doesn't come. What about the possibility of them investing in a young, inexpensive, athletic big via free agency? Would the Spurs FO even explore possibilities such as, Jordan Hill, Brandan Wright or even bringing back Ian Mahinmi? Are those even viable options that the FO would consider?
Since the Spurs will not be players in the upcoming June draft, I surely hope there will be an upcoming thread on the viable free-agent bigman options, along with their pros and cons - at some point this summer. THAT will be an interesting read.
I am really curious to see what type of big name free agents the Spurs are able to attract, even with tons of cap room. San Antonio has simply not been the destination of choice for top tier talent. That is especially the case recently as all the top players want to go to either LA or New York (or Miami for that matter). I believe Dallas is freeing up cap space as well for the next few years, and for some reason that is seen as a more attractive place to sign.
My biggest fear is that the Spurs will fail to get any top rate players to sign. I would hate to see them fall into the trap many others have and sign second tier guys to max contracts. That is usually not the Spurs MO, but their hands are not completely clean when it comes to giving out bad contracts. We do not need a team full of players like Joe Johnson and Rashard Lewis.
I don't see a big name ever coming to San Antonio - no matter how much cap room they have. That's why I'm so leery of jettisoning draft picks. That will likely be the only way the Spurs will be able to obtain and groom their next superstar player.
It's a beautiful thing. Even though getting rid of RJ only moved the horizon one year, that one year makes things look and feel so much more pleasant. His contract was just a dark cloud hanging over everything.
As for getting free agents to come to SA. With the new lux tax rules, I don't think that there will be as many teams in any given year willing and able to pay a fat contracts. I think these guys will be a lot more inclined to go where the money is. Not that they don't do that now, but they may have fewer options to shop around.
I really hope Lorbek will make the jump. And I hope that the Spurs can and will pony up enough to make it worth his while. Heh... and I hope he can transition well to the NBA. No knock to him, but you never know.
I notice you didn't put anything in for the 2013 first round pick. Unless they sell the pick for cash, or make it part of a trade, thats another several million. Is that going to screw up the plan?
Picks in general add a bit above the cap holds, but they're in general such a good way of securing cheap labour that it shouldn't be an issue. It's likely to be only an extra 500G or so, which shouldn't effect plans, as you can still fit a max salary guy into that space.
Yeah that's what I'm afraid of as well. Can the Spurs really rely on going with the free agency as their way of rebuilding into a successful team? No huge all-star may want to come to San Antonio...I had always thought of rebuilding via the draft, not through FA.
With the right pieces and money (Duncan and Parker on SA) would Howard really come over?
34m capspace
would kg, pierce, allen, whatever top fa on their last legs would come here for dirt cheap to field a super team of pensioners to compete for a ring?
What if Timmy just makes 22 M over the next 2 year?
I would like to add an aspect about this scenario. (agree about most points)
IMO Bonner has become a logical amnesty candidate for 2012 and the major reason isn't to get rid of him, the major point is, that this opens the flexibility to give Tim a better contract. (assuming Lorbek will be brought in and him taking Bonners rotation spot anyhow). with the mentioned calculation the Spurs will be above the threshold again and likely it will be about the number that Bonner's salary for 12/13 counts.
Spurs will have a big rotation of Tim, Tiago, Lorbek, Blair, plus a minimum player. another scenario is they sign Diaw after he is bought out, Diaw surprisingly works well and the Spurs try to keep him. then they would not be able to sign Lorbek, or Diaw excepts an LLE contract. (or whatever this is called under the new CBA)
but IMO Bonner no longer finds a niche in either scenario.
another situation to consider is a potential signing of De Colo. a lot will depend if the Spurs think he can handle a back up PG role. if not, the chances that he will be brought in are lower after the Sjax trade. Spurs now have Manu and Neal for SG plus Sjax, who will see significant minutes there, if the role of Leonard at SF gets more important. (and it will, as we are all sure about). so it will likely come down to a decision between re signing Green and bring in De Colo.
if ur going to amnesty bonner, u better get rid of blair also....dude is just as worst as bonner
I would keep Bonner. If Tim is resigned for the ~11 million discussed, there's not really a way to manage cap space to have more than the MLE, which should be sufficient for Lorbek. I would attempt to move Blair, he doesn't really fit with most of the other guys in that group. Not worth dumping him though, he's still better than his contract. But, If you could trade Blair for a late 1st/early 2nd, and you had confidence in bringing over Lorbek, and pick up another big to fill the rotation, whether it's Diaw or some defensive/energy big.
My money is on Blair being gone before the start of next season, probably for a late first rounder or most likely a very high second rounder (via Bobcats/Cavaliers).
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