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    War On Women: Anti-Contraception Lit Handed Out At Conservative Conference Headlined By Santorum, Paul Ryan

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...fp-conference/

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    Frank Rich nails the Repug misogyny:

    Stag Party

    The GOP’s woman problem is that it has a serious problem with women.


    http://nymag.com/print/?/news/frank-...roblem-2012-4/

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    Hypocrisy of one (many? all?) anti-abortionist:


    "He shared a story about one of the loudest abortion foes he ever encountered, a woman who stood year in and year out on a ladder, so that her head would be above other protesters’ as she shouted “murderer” at him and other doctors and “ ” at every woman who walked into the clinic.

    One day she was missing. “I thought, ‘I hope she’s O.K.,’ ” he recalled. He walked into an examining room to find her there. She needed an abortion and had come to him because, she explained, he was a familiar face. After the procedure, she assured him she wasn’t like all those other women: loose, unprincipled.

    She told him: “I don’t have the money for a baby right now. And my relationship isn’t where it should be.”

    “Nothing like life,” he responded, “to teach you a little more.”

    A week later, she was back on her ladder."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/op...gewanted=print

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    Based on the link in the OP; I'm telling all of my children (2 boys 18, 11 - one girl 14) that if they absolutely, positively do not want to be parents before they are married/out of college/some future date when it would be less traumatic to life - that they have to abstain.

    Does that make me anti-woman? According to the link, it implies I am.

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    According to the link, it implies I am.
    No. It doesn't.

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    "that they have to abstain."

    anti-woman? Yes, because abstinence as been demonstrated not to work compared with other methods.

    So, yes, you are encouraging your kids to fail at birth control, to produce unwanted pregnancy, which the woman gets stuck with, rarely the guy. iow, abtinence IS anti-woman, and an big part of the Repug war on female sex.

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    war on women

    class warfare

    war on the rich

    war on the poor

    blah, blah, blah

    what bunch of regurgitated bull

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    "that they have to abstain."

    anti-woman? Yes, because abstinence as been demonstrated not to work compared with other methods.

    So, yes, you are encouraging your kids to fail at birth control, to produce unwanted pregnancy, which the woman gets stuck with, rarely the guy. iow, abtinence IS anti-woman, and an big part of the Repug war on female sex.
    Abstinence is not anti-women. That's a stupid thing to say.

    Preaching abstinence at the exclusion of other methods is potentially anti-women, since as you mention it is women and girls who are stuck with the physical, psychological, and often financial ramifications of unwanted pregnancy. And demonizing birth control is certainly anti-women, since it paints women who merely want to protect themselves as s and/or baby killers. But encouraging kids to hold off on having sex until they're physically and emotionally ready for all its potential consequences is just responsible parenting (as is recognizing and acknowledging that all the encouraging in the world isn't going to magically stop all teenagers from ing).

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    "Abstinence is not anti-women. That's a stupid thing to say."

    As personal policy, no, but as govt/public policy, abstinence as birth control has failed miserably to prevent unwanted pregnancies, so to continue pushing abstinence as public policy is anti-women (pro-unwanted pregnancy).

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    I do not believe that republicans have a war against women. I do not believe that republicans hate women.

    I DO believe that Rick Santorum and much of the Roman Catholic and evangelical religious activists in America hate women. I think that the Roman Catholic Church has effectively engaged in a war on women since about the 6th century A.D.

    To the extent that the republican platform reflects the value set of the religious-right activists, and to the extent to which the republican candidates are beholden to that activist group for its political coffers and volunteers, then there may be some argument there.

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    ^^^^But the more I think about it, I think most of the national republicans are merely beholden to the fat cat Super Pacs.

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    Telling teens to abstain from ing is like telling someone to become a vegetarian.

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    I do not believe that republicans have a war against women. I do not believe that republicans hate women.
    Exactly, your beliefs trump all the evidence.

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    Telling teens to abstain from ing is like telling someone to become a vegetarian.
    lol.

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    Exactly, your beliefs trump all the evidence.
    Well, at least I state my beliefs as beliefs, not as fact.

    Care to try that yourself?

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    My cousin had her sweet 16 last Saturday and she vowed in front of everybody and the pastor that she would not have sex until she is married.

    Maybe have more sweet 16's?

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    I DO believe that Rick Santorum and much of the Roman Catholic and evangelical religious activists in America hate women.
    Eh, I don't think they hate women, they just have archaic ideas about gender roles.

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    you beliefs are beliefs, make up your own

    facts are facts, try looking them up (like the studies on public policy abstinence as teen birth control)

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    "Abstinence is not anti-women. That's a stupid thing to say."

    As personal policy, no, but as govt/public policy, abstinence as birth control has failed miserably to prevent unwanted pregnancies, so to continue pushing abstinence as public policy is anti-women (pro-unwanted pregnancy).
    Great. But that has nothing to do with the question 101A asked; the question to which your post responded.

    101A was attempting to attack the posted article through an invented implication that parents who encourage abstinence are themselves, on an individual level, anti-women. Which is asinine. However, your response, in all its "repugs is evil" glory, merely serves to reduce the conversation to contentious name calling.

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    And demonizing birth control is certainly anti-women, since it paints women who merely want to protect themselves as s and/or baby killers. .
    That's basically what it boils down to. The thinking is that having such access to birth control is a green light to go anybody you want. Didn't Rush call that woman a and wanted birth control for her ty ways? Ridiculous. My dad gave me a knife, it's not a green light for me to go stab someone even though I know the consequences.

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    Well, at least I state my beliefs as beliefs, not as fact.

    Care to try that yourself?
    Your beliefs are irrelevant. You will be assimilated by the bot.

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    you beliefs are beliefs, make up your own

    facts are facts, try looking them up (like the studies on public policy abstinence as teen birth control)
    Equating Evay's beliefs to ? Stay classy oh enlightened progressive.

    :facepalm.

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    beliefs are beliefs, just like opinions and assholes, not all of them pass the smell test

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    Doesn't make Evay's beliefs .

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    some beliefs are simply , like Scientology, the Virgin Birth, Mormonism

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