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That rule would be impossible to enforce. All a player would have to do is claim "cramps" or "back spasms" if the coach wanted him to rest.
How many league rules have been enacted during the Duncan Era that were subtlely aimed at hurting the Spurs (tactics/strategies)???
Discussing with a Lakers fan co-worker... Off the top of my head I can only recount a couple of them... Such as:
1) The "Hack-a-Shaq" strategy cannot be employed during the last two minutes of a game without incurring the additional penalty of the subsequent loss of possession.
2) Hand checking in the perimeter (as a viable defensive tactic) was eliminated after the '99 Championship in an attempt to curb the Spurs' defensive dominance.
3) Rules affecting how call-ups from the D-League affected the Salary Cap, were instated to stop the Spurs organization from outsmarting the system.
4) Zone Defense now permitted in the NBA in a blatant attempt to undermine the defensive dominance that the Robinson/Duncan Spurs employed without the need for said schemes...
I guess now they might add a rule disallowing coaches from resting star players...
I know there are other rule changes that directly affected the ways the Spurs go about their business... Could the ST braintrust add them to the list if/where I missed them??? Thanks...
That rule would be impossible to enforce. All a player would have to do is claim "cramps" or "back spasms" if the coach wanted him to rest.
lol "aimed at hurting the Spurs"
you're really reaching with this thread...
When that list ends up at around 10 or so examples we'll see how much of a stretch that premise holds... I know there are several more rule changes, I just can't remember them as well as some of our resident rules gurus...
League bias may not be overly blantant per se... but it does exist.
(1) had no effect since the Spurs didn't use that a lot until about 2008. (4) made the '03 and '04 Spurs teams impossible to score on at times. Now (2) was obvious, and basically ended Mario Elie's career.
Whatever happened to the flopping rule? I remember that they were suppose start fining players for flopping, the media and players CONSTANTLY called out the Spurs' flopping. Once they started losing they were ignored, teams flop more than ever now and nobody cares, especially the Heat.
#1 has been the rule as long as I can remember. IIRC, that was one of the Wilt Chamberlain rule changes.
#2 is legit. The 2000 Spurs had no chance after that rule change made Elie, Jackson and Kersey obsolete.
#3 wasn't about the salary cap. It was about the Spurs calling up a player just to go to the top of the heap priority-wise to sign NBDL free agents. But since the Toros have never helped the Spurs, it's difficult to claim that one made much of a difference.
#4 made it easier for teams not as dedicated to defense to become elite. And since the Spurs base defense is rarely "illegal" by the former rules, it's probably been a net negative for the Spurs over the years. Good call.
n/m
reminds me of the changes my beloved Steelers and Mel Blount brought to the NFL, coz of their hard nosed style and dominance.
its the ultimate compliment, even though it s**** at the same time.
I thought the Spurs' used the deliberate foul strategy against the Lakers in 2003, 2004 and against Ben Wallace in the 2005 NBA Finals....
Wasn't a rule affecting buy out clauses also changed??? One that made the procurement of Luis Scola that much more difficult to attain?
The Spurs had it used on them in 03 in game 2 vs Dallas, but I don't recall that team ever using it. Now that I think back, they may have done it a couple of times in 04. I don't think the team used it a lot until 08 against Shaq in the first round and Chandler in the second though.
It's in the best interest of the league to keep the game interesting to fans. Of course SA isn't interesting to most fans, but that's not their goal, I don't think, to eliminate SA from the picture. They would love to have other teams model themselves after the Spurs as it would elevate the league and bring other teams' fans who've been dormant for years into the fray.
When a team/teams learns ways to manipulate a system to their advantage, the league tries to remove that loophole. The hacking fouls destroy the game, though they are legitimate strategies to attack the weakest link of the opposing team.
The league isn't interested in keeping it fair, but keeping it marketable. They are a business first and foremost.
No #2, no Parker. And probably half of Ginobili offensive power gone, too.
Edit: double post...
An NBA conspiracy thread!
Neato!
Didn't they put in the "5 second back to the basket in the post" penalty to prevent teams from dropping it in to the post? Sounds like it's something to limit TD.
I think that was for Barkley or Mark Jackson.
The day the NBA does forces this, is the day half the league goes to play in Europe or China. This wont happen, the players are too whiny.
You forgot about two more enforcements:
1) Refs will call players for technicals if you even jesture your unhappiness or look at a ref in the wrong way. (Brought upon by Duncan complaining about no foul call, even as Duncan fans we have to admit he used to slap his hands and yell WAY too much before this rule change)
2) Ignoring the "flop" (Clearly was created for Manu... I mean they were showing Manu as the examples when the refs were explaining the rules on NBAtv)
...and about flopping, Manu gets WAY too much flack for this, the guy is smart and tries to get a charge call, and a lot of times he is successful...because guess what? It's a legit call.
Players like Reggie Miller dominated by taking advantage of the rules (Reggie's jump into you shot), and guess what? The media didn't make a big deal about it like he was giving a black eye to the game!
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ESPN's Henry Abbott still talks on podcasts and on his blog about how "boring" the championship Spurs were, and how the NBA should change even more rules to take away from such defensive dominance. Gotta love it
I can totally see the NBA doing that considering how much attention the Spurs have been getting for it. A lot of teams do that under the guise of an "injury" but the Spurs are the only team that outright does it for rest. Not to mention, the "OLD" thing helped matters as well.
No.
Other teams have been doing it as well. Miami rested Bosh and Wade tonight. Boston rested their Big 3 against Charlotte earlier this week. Nash and Hill rested in the middle game of a b2b2b. That's just off the top of my head.
Dunno about others.. but the new rule changes since the 2011-12 season, I thought, were to curb high IQ offense players like Manu -
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/73...-fouls-2011-12
"Rip-through" moves, in which an offensive player swings the ball into a defender's outstretched arm and then attempts a shot once he has created contact, will be considered non-shooting fouls if the contact begins before the offensive player starts his shooting motion.
Also, on drives to the basket, a shooting foul will be called only if contact occurs after the offensive player has begun his shooting motion, not after he has initiated his leap toward the basket.
"Certain types of contact involving the shooter were all being called in his favor," Jackson said. "It doesn't look good for the game. There was a strong feeling that those types of plays were creating an ill-advised reward for the shooter, often with three free throws."
It was known as the Barkley rule.
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