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It is VERY likely that your vehicle already has one.
Mandatory ‘Big Brother’ Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015
Provision is part of controversial MAP-21 bill expected to pass House
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, April 18, 2012
A bill already passed by the Senate and set to be rubber stamped by the House would make it mandatory for all new cars in the United States to be fitted with black box data recorders from 2015 onwards.
Section 31406 of Senate Bill 1813 (known as MAP-21), calls for “Mandatory Event Data Recorders” to be installed in all new automobiles and legislates for civil penalties to be imposed against individuals for failing to do so.
“Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall revise part 563 of le 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part,” states the bill.
Although the text of legislation states that such data would remain the property of the owner of the vehicle, the government would have the power to access it in a number of cir stances, including by court order, if the owner consents to make it available, and pursuant to an investigation or inspection conducted by the Secretary of Transportation.
Given the innumerable examples of both government and industry illegally using supposedly privacy-protected information to spy on individuals, this represents the slippery slope to total Big Brother surveillance of every American’s transport habits and location data.
The legislation, which has been given the Orwellian le ‘Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act’, sailed through the Senate after being heavily promoted by Democrats Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer and is also expected to pass the Republican-controlled House.
Given the fact that the same bill also includes a controversial provision that would empower the IRS to revoke passports of citizens merely accused of owing over $50,000 in back taxes, stripping them of their mobility rights, could the mandatory black boxes or a similar technology be used for the same purpose?
The push to pressure car manufacturers to install black box tracking devices in all new cars has been ongoing for over a decade. In 2006, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration encouraged but did not require automobile manufacturers to install the systems.
However, in February last year NHTSA administrator David Strickland said the government was considering making the technology mandatory in the wake of recalls of millions of Toyota vehicles.
Earlier this year it was reported that the NHTSA would soon formally announce that all new cars would be mandated to have the devices fitted by law, which has now been codified into the MAP-21 bill.
It is VERY likely that your vehicle already has one.
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I'll try to read the piece without an lol, but historically it's been hard not to
how long has this been the case, would you say?
(pure curiosity here, zero knowledge)
At least as long as OnStar has been around.
analog to digital conversion in 2007
rolled out its first product in fall of 1996
what I was asking was sorta, when did it become standard equipment, as suggested upstream?
The computers have been in cars for decades. Now the wireless age has eliminated the need for the car to be physically connected to another computer in order to retrieve the data. Certainly the black helicopter crowd will be worried about the government being able to track your whereabouts (as if people aren't already making that easy to do by carrying smartphones), but the en ies who are really interested in tracking your driving habits are insurance companies and transportation agencies.
oh, I feel much better now... ;-)
I share the sentiment, but that's the path the technology is taking us down.
That being said, anyone bothered by this is already pretty late to the party. Like Darrin said, odds are most of us are already driving a vehicle with something similar on it.
Some scientists started worrying about this sort of thing happening when cell phones first became truly mobile, i.e., when they stopped being tied to your car. They said that the technology would inevitably lead to (what were then) violations of privacy. Nobody had much of a clue what they were talking about, and lots of folks accused them of being conspiracy theorists. Mostly pone companies accused them of it.
The technology is here to stay and the application of the technology for finding liability in auto accidents and verification for traffic citations is going to prove impossible for legislatures to turn down.
But, the slippery slope began with the cell pone, and none of us are ready to give them up.
born not to carry a phone, but it's highly impractical not to
Could this be a precursor to a tax based on how many miles we drive?
I thought that was called gas?
can we all just get 666 microchips tattoo'd into our foreheads already?
Mid to late 90's
I think Progressive has a device that reads data from your vehicle network through the ODBII port and will reduce your rate if the data indicates you are a good driver (by that, I assume not overly speedy, aggressive, etc.)
Nice, we can have fully automated speeding tickets soon.
I don't know of any vehicle telematics system (other than OnStar) that can read anything from the event data recorder.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/onstar2.htm
CG already jumped in to answer that one for me, but thanks for replying..
Wasn't aware of these other systems.
•Ford RESCU (remote emergency satellite cellular unit) and VEMS (vehicle emergency messaging system)
•Volvo OnCall
•BMW Assist
•Mercedes-Benz TeleAid and Command
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/onstar4.htm
FYI, you shouldn't try to disable the event recorder if you still want airbag functionality. If you don't like the "big brother" aspect, you can probably have the cellular comm disabled (if you have OnStar).
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