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    Ok timvp and other stat hounds.
    You've posted the goods on Bonnys incredible reg season + -
    Including todays team leading +18 despite playing 12 minutes, shooting 0-4 (0-3 treys) and having two rebounds fall on him all while playing standard Bonner D.

    Reality
    What is Bonners + - in the playoffs?

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    Ok timvp and other stat hounds.
    You've posted the goods on Bonnys incredible reg season + -
    Including todays team leading +18 despite playing 12 minutes, shooting 0-4 (0-3 treys) and having two rebounds fall on him all while playing standard Bonner D.

    Reality
    What is Bonners + - in the playoffs?
    Sounds like you're trying to make some point, and make them do the work. Don't be such a lazy .

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    The key to life is to be able to answer the questions that randomly pop up in your head, tbh.

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    Tonight:

    Matt Bonner, PF 19 0-4 FG- 0-3 3PT- 0-0 FT- 2 RBDS- 0 ASSTS- 0 STLS- 0 BLKS- 0pts- +17 -

    Manu Ginobili, SG 22 9-12 FG- 0-1 3PT- 2-2 FT- 3RBDS- 3ASSTS- 1 STL- 0 BLKS- 20pts- 0 -


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    I'm too lazy to use this internet thing I'm connected to RIGHT NOW.

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    ^
    Originally posted by Fabbs:
    Perhaps those who are much better then me at accessing stats, ie they can post color coded charts and graphs showing how many sandwiches Bonner ate after making out with Pop on full moon Tuesday nites only........
    might easily have or get the playoff stats.
    Relevancy my man, relevancy.

    Sure i can look it up and will.

    Don't yall be so butthurt/thought policey.

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    Look it the up yourself, lazy bag.

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    Look it the up yourself, lazy bag.
    Oh I'll look it up you pussy. But for the boards sake too, not just my own.
    Since his + - has been a topic for 5 years running.

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    tbh, I don't feel like looking it up again, but last playoffs, he ended up in the negative..

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    I'm surprised no one has posted the answer yet.

    Last season, Matt Bonner had a +/- of -12 in the playoffs. But considering Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, George Hill, and Gary Neal all had a worse +/- rating, that's not really saying much. In fact, only four players had a positive net +/- in that series, and of those four, only one played significant minutes.

    http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusmi...t=9&team=Spurs

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    Depends on manu-bonner PNR results. And his shooting of course

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    Of course his +/- is going to be bad. We lost 4 straight games in that series. Why would any stat look good? Good grief Charlie Brown!!!

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    Of course his +/- is going to be bad. We lost 4 straight games in that series. Why would any stat look good? Good grief Charlie Brown!!!
    No we didn't

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    Anyone with that nice of cleavage should be given some allowances.

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    He led the Spurs in Win Shares / 48 minutes in last year's playoffs.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2011.html

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    He led the Spurs in Win Shares / 48 minutes in last year's playoffs.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2011.html
    Are +/- and win shares related? Because if I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere that Kahwi Leonard's win shares per 48 minutes are comparable to that of LeBron's, even though his +/- is among the worst on the team.

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    Bonner is a hero apparently - man on man defense he holds opponents to under 26% FGM (from the post here the other day), and spreads the floor well according to Pop's tactics.

    In the playoffs he will be the Spur's clutch player - just look at his awesome stats !

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    Are +/- and win shares related? Because if I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere that Kahwi Leonard's win shares per 48 minutes are comparable to that of LeBron's, even though his +/- is among the worst on the team.
    I haven't looked into it with any depth, but just from looking at each every now and then, yes, they seem to be highly correlated. As opposed to, say, PER. I'm referring to adjusted +/-, not regular, not sure how different that is for Kawhi.


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    Yes, Matt Bonner has had a negative +/- for every Spurs postseason he has participated in

    10/11 -12 in 122:31
    09/10 -27 in 173:22
    08/09 -26 in 99:37
    07/08 -3 in 8:57

    Yes, the king of +/- fails in the playoffs. This is a known to anyone, stat hound or game watcher, who's been paying the slightest bit of attention.

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    Yes, Matt Bonner has had a negative +/- for every Spurs postseason he has participated in

    10/11 -12 in 122:31
    09/10 -27 in 173:22
    08/09 -26 in 99:37
    07/08 -3 in 8:57


    Yes, the king of +/- fails in the playoffs. This is a known to anyone, stat hound or game watcher, who's been paying the slightest bit of attention.
    paying the slightest bit of attention.

    He's won 4 les you know. <(That's one of the PollyAnna Poppers credos pad300, not aimed at you.)

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    paying the slightest bit of attention.

    He's won 4 les you know.
    Fabbs....you killed em with their own fave stat....


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    paying the slightest bit of attention.

    He's won 4 les you know. <(That's one of the PollyAnna Poppers credos pad300, not aimed at you.)
    I haven't seen a good reason to replace yet.

    No one calling for a replacement has yet to propose a better candidate. The fact we are in 1st place in the West, and look like a decent shot in the PO's testifies to 's skill.

    Yes, he has blind spots (Bonner, Finley, Bogans, not resigning Bowen, sometimes small ball). I have yet to hear of a major manager in ANY sport who doesn't have a few.

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    Bonner's on/off court was much improved in 2011 playoffs, it was better than TD's and TP's

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    Bonner's on/off court was much improved in 2011 playoffs, it was better than TD's and TP's
    you're dumb

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