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    The illegal immigration problem is going away.

    That's the conclusion I draw from the latest report of the Pew Hispanic Center on Mexican immigration to the United States.

    Pew's demographers have carefully combed through statistics compiled by the U.S. Census Bureau, the Department of Homeland Security and the Mexican government, and have come up with estimates of the flow of migrants from and back to Mexico. Their work seems to be as close to definitive as possible.

    They conclude that from 2005 to 2010, some 1.39 million people came from Mexico to the United States and 1.37 million went from the U.S. to Mexico. "The largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States," they write, "has come to a standstill."
    http://www.aei.org/article/society-a...n-from-mexico/

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    It was the housing bubble that sucked them in. Home builders, many of them Repugs, loved underpaying/not-paying illegal immigrants.

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    With the Mexican reservoir of potential illegals dried up, and with better border enforcement and increased use of the much improved e-Verify system in workplaces, the illegal population seems likely to decline.

    The key immigration issue for the future is whether America, like our Anglosphere cousins Canada and Australia, will let in more high-skill immigrants.

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    Home builders, many of them Repugs,

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    It was the housing bubble that sucked them in. Home builders, many of them Repugs, loved underpaying/not-paying illegal immigrants.
    LOL...

    That's right Bot...

    Keep plugin away at anything you can to blame "repugs."

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    Sure, Repug politicians LOVE to beat up on illegal immigrants, but Repug businessmen hate not having them around to pick fruit and veg, build houses, dig ditches, etc.

    Not true on the Dem side.

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    With the Mexican reservoir of potential illegals dried up, and with better border enforcement and increased use of the much improved e-Verify system in workplaces, the illegal population seems likely to decline.

    The key immigration issue for the future is whether America, like our Anglosphere cousins Canada and Australia, will let in more high-skill immigrants
    That will reverse itself in short order if you get a stream of refugees fleeing the drug violence.

    I think it may very well come to the point where we seriously have to consider acting as hosts to people literally fleeing for their lives to escape the violence.

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    possible

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    "refugees fleeing the drug violence."

    no

    Besides less work in USA, illegal immigrants are not attempting to cross the border due to extreme violence on the MX side.

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    "refugees fleeing the drug violence."

    no

    Besides less work in USA, illegal immigrants are not attempting to cross the border due to extreme violence on the MX side.
    You lie. Already happening.

    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/nation...nce-refuge-us/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/us...pagewanted=all

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76I6P020110719

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    You Lie,

    Mexicans legally immigrating to USA, esp wealthy ones with $100Ks to qualify for special visas for starting companies/hiring in USA, is completely different than illegals trying walk/sneak in through the drug war.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    I see you didn't read the links...again. :facepalm

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    Sure, Repug politicians LOVE to beat up on illegal immigrants, but Repug businessmen hate not having them around to pick fruit and veg, build houses, dig ditches, etc.

    Not true on the Dem side.
    BTW...Utah says Shut the Up, bot.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/03/18/134626...el-for-america


    gfy.

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    The immigration problem is systemic in laws that are not meant to be enforced and a resistance to those laws that does not look for changes to said rule of law.

    lol amnesty

    If unemployment trends plummet they will be back.

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    Sure, Repug politicians LOVE to beat up on illegal immigrants, but Repug businessmen hate not having them around to pick fruit and veg, build houses, dig ditches, etc.

    Not true on the Dem side.
    Why are the democrats better?

    I heard an interesting election season fact today.

    Three-quarters of this nations non-white governors are republican, and two-thirds of the female governors are republican.

    Is this why democrats have to cry the loudest about diversity? To make people believe that they are more diverse?

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    lol anecdotes...

    First female democrat governor sworn in: Nellie Tayloe Ross (1925, Wyoming)
    First female republican governor sworn in: Kay A. Orr (1987, Nevada)

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    Why are the democrats better?

    I heard an interesting election season fact today.

    Three-quarters of this nations non-white governors are republican, and two-thirds of the female governors are republican.

    Is this why democrats have to cry the loudest about diversity? To make people believe that they are more diverse?
    Repugs, esp old white low education males and their politicians, not Dems, are the ones screaming and whining about illegal immigrants.

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    Welcome to the Tautology Club.

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    Why are the democrats better?

    I heard an interesting election season fact today.

    Three-quarters of this nations non-white governors are republican, and two-thirds of the female governors are republican.

    Is this why democrats have to cry the loudest about diversity? To make people believe that they are more diverse?
    How many does this add up to?


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    Welcome to the Tautology Club.
    LOL...

    Good word that applies to the AGW crowd...

    It's getting warmer... because of greenhouse gasses...

    It's getting colder... because of greenhouse gasses...

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    How many does this add up to?

    Not many.

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    There's a different sort of drought plaguing California, the nation's largest farm state. It's $38 billion agricultural sector is facing a scarcity of labor.

    "This year is the worst it's been, ever," said Craig Underwood, who farms everything from strawberries to lemons to peppers, carrots, and turnips in Ventura County. Some crops aren't get picked this season due to a lack of workers.

    "We just left them in the field," he said.

    The Western Growers Association told CNBC its members are reporting a 20 percent drop in laborers this year. Stronger border controls are keeping workers from crossing into the U.S. illegally, and the current guest worker program is not providing enough bodies. (

    "We have 100 fewer people this year," said Sergio Diaz, who provides workers under contract for growers. "We're having difficulty finding people to do this work."

    The lack of workers is forcing farmers to pay more. In one of Underwood's fields, pickers are harvesting peppers for $9.25 a hour, or $5 a bucket, whichever is more. Craig Underwood said his workforce is aging and starting to retire, and no one is coming in to replace them.

    "Migratory flows between Mexico and the United States have come to a halt," Carlos Gonzalez Gutierrez, consul general of Mexico in Sacramento, told a California farm bureau labor committee, according to AgAlert.


    Growers of California's wine grapes are concerned there won't be enough pickers for this fall's harvest. Berry growers — among the highest paying — saw fewer field hands show up in the spring.

    "Fruit that you should be picking is not being picked," said grower John Eiskamp.

    Most pickers in California are not here legally, a fact of life for decades.

    When asked if any local residents have come out to apply to work in the fields, Craig Underwood replied, "None. Absolutely none." He is even having trouble finding truck drivers and other semi-skilled labor for jobs that pay $12-$18 an hour.
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48725145

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    likely more related to recessionary pressures than current immigration policy, but current policy does play in: interdiction/enforcement is at historic highs.

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    likely more related to recessionary pressures than current immigration policy, but current policy does play in: interdiction/enforcement is at historic highs.
    There are plenty of people without jobs taking government money. make them work if they want to also stay on the take.

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    compelled labor? are we still living in the USA?

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