Oh man, the DNC/CBS/Kerry campaign done F'ed up. Bush could end up looking a of a lot better if this gets out.
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...47,00.html
FOX Interviews Commander's Son
Friday, September 10, 2004
By James Rosen
WASHINGTON — FOX News conducted two interviews by telephone on Sept. 10, 2004, with Gary Killian, son of the late Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian, whose signature appears on some of the do ents obtained by CBS News purporting to show that the elder Killian, squadron leader of Lt. George W. Bush in the Texas Air National Guard, complained privately of attempts to "sugarcoat" Lt. Bush's record.
The second interview, largely reprising the first, was recorded on audio. Gary Killian, a veteran himself, refused to go on camera. Lt. Col. Killian died in 1984.
Gary Killian has reviewed the do ents, which first surfaced on CBS' "60 Minutes" this week, and has his own PDF file of them. He said he is "very dubious" about the genuineness of the do ents.
Killian said his father was "not in the habit of keeping secret files,"did not maintain a home office, did not conduct any work after leaving his office for the day and did not have available to him at work the kind of typewriter that apparently was used to compose the do ents in question.
A typist, Marian Carr, served the elder Killian and others in the military, and used a large electric typewriter with a rotating ball. But Killian's son said that Lt. Col. Killian, if he had any typewriter for his personal use, would have used a manual typewriter
Moreover, the sentiments expressed in the do ents, according to the younger Killian, did not reflect his father's "true feelings" about Lt. Bush.
Previously released Texas Air National Guard (search) do ents signed by Lt. Col. Killian, the papers of whose authenticity is unquestioned, show he rated Lt. Bush "an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot."
One unsigned do ent obtained by CBS, dated August 18, 1973, and captioned "CYA," struck Killian as especially dubious.
"If he had written that, he would have signed it," Killian told FOX News of his father. He also said his father would have typed such a do ent himself, "hated" typing and was a "very poor" typist. "He did not type memos to himself," Killian added, saying it was "too much effort" and "very dangerous … not a good practice."
The younger Killian also said his father generally did not sign his signature without spelling out his full first name; the CBS do ent dated August 1, 1972, did not contain Lt. Col. Killian's full name in the signature.
Killian said the do ents were not provided to CBS by anyone in his family, which includes himself, his stepmother Marjorie Connell, and two of the younger Killian's siblings, the older of whom was only in high school during the period in question.
Finally, Killian said his father told him a story in 1980 or 1981, when the two sat in an officers' club in San Antonio, Texas, about Lt. Bush having twice volunteered for duty in the Air National Guard "Palace Alert" program, under which fighter pilots in the Guard could serve a year on active duty in Vietnam.
On both occasions, the younger Killian said, Lt. Bush was turned down because he did not have more than 500 hours of flight time. Killian cited Maurice Udell, later a commander of the 147th Fighter Group, in which Lt. Bush served, and Col. Buck Staudt, later a brigadier general, as the individuals who turned Lt. Bush down.
"We have pilots with thousands of hours in the F-102," Bush was told, according to Killian. "Why would I send you?"
Oh, damn.
Wouldn't there be do entation of their refusal to send him, though?
And to go a little further.....maybe in those first couple of years when he racked up 3-4 times as many flight hours than he needed he was actually trying to get enough hours to qualify for that program, but then let up when he was repeatedly denied?
Totally out of left field, but wouldn't that be a hoot?
FoxNews?
And why won't the chimp answer the questions
They [the White House] have not answered the question of did or did the president not obey or obey an order?
Was he or was he not suspended for failure to meet performance standards of the Air Force?
If he didn't take the physical, why didn't he take the physical?" Rather said.
Well....hummm?
Hey, the DNC/CBS/Kerry campaign says that this man spoke the truth through some Rather dubious do ents. If that is the case why stop there?
Perhaps the evil Rove is behind all of this...
Hey maybe the chimp volunteered to fly in 'Nam.
Oh man.
"I know nothing I tell you!"
Too bad there's a Major General who witnessed them being signed.
It was a ing interview with the man's son, not a commentary you putz."FoxNews?"
A Major General remembers witnessing the signatory on a routine do ent? Wow! That's an officer with too much time on his hands."Too bad there's a Major General who witnessed them being signed."
Nothing from the WH yet? No denial?
lol, I've met a few generals, they all have too much on their hands to remember something as insignificant as a signature.
Just put the shovel down and quit digging.
This White House practices the age-old, tried and true method of never interfering when a man is defeating himself."Nothing from the WH yet? No denial?"
Aside from Dan Rather and the Loony Left on this board and in the DNC, no one is asking for the President to address the issue. Besides, he's addressed his Guard duty in this and 3 prior elections...it's old and stale. He's looking forward.
Ah yes, that Major General Hodges.
Just plain desperation from the Demoncrats! Get real!
To put the whole "general remembers signing this" thing in perspective, it would be akin to you or me remembering what the teacher was doing when we wrote our names on a paper in third grade.
Seriously, it's about the dumbest justification for an outlandish claim I've seen yet from the Democrats, and that's saying a lot.
it would be akin to you or me remembering what the teacher was doing when we wrote our names on a paper in third grade.
I don't know....on May 4, 1972 I was only a little over 4 months old. I really don't recall much from then.
Quit trying to be honest SW !
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