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    So my coworkers and I were talking about last nights game.One of them brought up the fact that presti is the thunders GM and were still have RC.We pretty much went round and round with the,"what if presti had replaced rc?"subject.Of course it went nowhere,but it did get me wondering how our team would have looked if RC had stepped down and presti had taken over.Just wondering if this has crossed anyone else's mind.Thoughts?

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    It'd be the same. Presti has been rewarded for making good lottery picks, which most of the time isn't too difficult. The one good trade he has made so far was for Perk. Otherwise, he hasn't really done that much.

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    prestigiacomo has durant. rc doesnt

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    It'd be the same. Presti has been rewarded for making good lottery picks, which most of the time isn't too difficult. The one good trade he has made so far was for Perk. Otherwise, he hasn't really done that much.
    Ibaka was a great find well outside the lottery(24th).

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    RC's track record >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presti's track record

    Presti took Durant and then didn't blow a couple lottery picks and then got Ibaka late in the first round. Pretty damn good. But Presti still has a way to go to replicate what RC/Pop did when they transitioned from the 1999 team to the Big 3 era using little to no resources. And then RC/Pop almost transitioned the Big 3 era into yet another championship-level era that featured an offense-first approach.

    Presti could have drafted Kevin Love instead of Westbrook and Stephen Curry instead of Harden and have the next dozen championships on lock. (Damn, that's a scary team to think about.)

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    Ibaka was a great find well outside the lottery(24th).
    Was just about to post this.Also,didn't he pretty much have to beg pop and rc just to take a look at tony.Something along the lines of having to put together a highlight video.

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    Buford's track record with draft picks makes me think the Spurs made the right choice, as amazing a GM as Presti is. It wasn't a situation like Duncan/Robinson where you could have both doing their jobs at their peak together.

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    RC's track record >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presti's track record

    Presti took Durant and then didn't blow a couple lottery picks and then got Ibaka late in the first round. Pretty damn good. But Presti still has a way to go to replicate what RC/Pop did when they transitioned from the 1999 team to the Big 3 era using little to no resources. And then RC/Pop almost transitioned the Big 3 era into yet another championship-level era that featured an offense-first approach.

    Presti could have drafted Kevin Love instead of Westbrook and Stephen Curry instead of Harden and have the next dozen championships on lock. (Damn, that's a scary team to think about.)
    I can see your point,but isn't he pretty much on that championship track with this current roster?Which is still(at the core)in their early twenties?Granted they have not won anything yet,but they are only going to get better.One last thing,isn't this just their fourth year in the league?

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    The rebuilding this team has done on the fly has been nothing short of amazing. The two biggest gaffes have been renewing the RJ deal and signing Matt Bonner for four years. But, somehow he managed to turn RJ into Stephen Jackson (a far more well-rounded player) and I'm hopeful he'll be rectifying the other decision this off-season ( o amnesty!).

    Presti has been great, but RC has been better.

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    Didn't RC press Pop into drafting TP, or am I remembering wrong?

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    Sam Presti would probably have been fired if he had the first pick in 2007. Fortunately for him, he had the second and the obvious choice of Durrant. If he'd have had the first, he'd have drafted Oden and the Thunder would suck.

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    Didn't RC press Pop into drafting TP, or am I remembering wrong?

    You remembered wrong. Pop wasn't sold on Parker, and it was actually Sam Presti that convinced Coach Pop to try Tony Parker.

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    You remembered wrong. Pop wasn't sold on Parker, and it was actually Sam Presti that convinced Coach Pop to try Tony Parker.
    Wow, thanks for correcting me. Buford has done some masterful work, but drafting Tony was probably the best move in franchise history. I know Manu was a much lower pick, but he was a complete luck move while Parker was someone the team badly wanted by draft day.

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    You watch , the guys in the rafters will go to the finals pierce/durant. If lebron and durant go it will be obvious. They will do like they did lebron in 07. Celts vs durant. They'll get there shot and durant will get run. Though the league may get desperate and think there chances of a micheal jordan is slipping and give durant and le. I also think stern is trying to give seattle the buisness for making it so difficult to leave.

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    Sam Presti would probably have been fired if he had the first pick in 2007. Fortunately for him, he had the second and the obvious choice of Durrant. If he'd have had the first, he'd have drafted Oden and the Thunder would suck.
    This. You need a certain element of luck when drafting, even up in the high lottery.

    Who could have known that 5 years down the road, the Thunder are counting thier blessings they missed out on the #1 pick

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    Presti deserves props for hitting on his draft picks, but it's a different ballgame when you go from building a contending roster with young stars on rookie contracts to maintaining a championship caliber roster when those young stars start asking for max contracts.

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    Was Presti responsible for Mahinmi?

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    RC's track record >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presti's track record

    Presti took Durant and then didn't blow a couple lottery picks and then got Ibaka late in the first round. Pretty damn good. But Presti still has a way to go to replicate what RC/Pop did when they transitioned from the 1999 team to the Big 3 era using little to no resources. And then RC/Pop almost transitioned the Big 3 era into yet another championship-level era that featured an offense-first approach.

    Presti could have drafted Kevin Love instead of Westbrook and Stephen Curry instead of Harden and have the next dozen championships on lock. (Damn, that's a scary team to think about.)
    RC got the lottery no brainer gifts of Robinson and Duncan to build around. Presti took a weak lottery team and turned them into le contenders( maybe even a le this year) in a short time. Give Presti more time and he will outdo RC. Presti is off to an impressive start.

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    Didn't RC press Pop into drafting TP, or am I remembering wrong?
    would Pop have any say on whether to pick someone or not? i thought that was all front office dealings.

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    The rebuilding this team has done on the fly has been nothing short of amazing. The two biggest gaffes have been renewing the RJ deal and signing Matt Bonner for four years. But, somehow he managed to turn RJ into Stephen Jackson (a far more well-rounded player) and I'm hopeful he'll be rectifying the other decision this off-season ( o amnesty!).

    Presti has been great, but RC has been better.
    Scola trade was the worst move and another big mistake was going after Kidd when you had parker and ending up with Rasho.

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    Funny thing:

    Imagine Presti having the #1 not the #2 pick in '07! He would have taken Oden (nobody will say otherwise)!

    Now imagine him having the #2 and not the #4 pick in '08! He would have taken Beasley (at that point a sure shot top-2-pick)!

    ...I'll spare you '09 (Harden/Thabeet?) because here is where I don't know if he would have hesitated after bulding an Oden/Beasley frontcourt

    Presti is doing good but after all he also had a lock of luck (yeah, like we had with Timmy too).
    I'm not sure R.C. is better than Presti, but he isn't worse neither!

    (and yes, Presti was the guy beeing responsible for drafting TP)

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    Scola trade was the worst move and another big mistake was going after Kidd when you had parker and ending up with Rasho.
    Presti will make his mistakes as well!
    We will see how he manages the contracts of the 2 max guys + the 2 frontcourt guys + Harden + something else with a cap thats heading towards something like a hard cap (at least for a small market team like OKC).

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    RC got the lottery no brainer gifts of Robinson and Duncan to build around. Presti took a weak lottery team and turned them into le contenders( maybe even a le this year) in a short time. Give Presti more time and he will outdo RC. Presti is off to an impressive start.
    Presti's weak lottery team had tradeable assets and an ownership group that was only interested in slashing payroll so that the team could be sold. He had the luxury of not being under any immediate pressure to put a compe ive team on the floor. Let's see what Presti does when his draft picks all come late and his best players aren't locked up on cheap rookie contracts.

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    The thing about Bufored is he's been good for YEARS, far longer than Presti. i'll give Pesti a great "golf clap" for putting that powerhouse of a squad together in OKC but he's still got many years until you can really compare him to Buford

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    RC got the lottery no brainer gifts of Robinson and Duncan to build around. Presti took a weak lottery team and turned them into le contenders( maybe even a le this year) in a short time. Give Presti more time and he will outdo RC. Presti is off to an impressive start.
    Give RC three top 5 picks over the next three years and we'll be a dominant team again.

    RC's record sans a lottery pick has no equal in the NBA.

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