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We're not trading with the Heat. No thanks.
Rumor has it that Miami might be trying to trade their first round pick (#27 overall) b/c they are targeting Ray Allen, Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Jermaine O'Neal, Chris Kaman, Lamar Odom, and/or Brandon Roy to sign MLE's to make a run at another le. And, there's been talk about the Spurs wanting to trade into the first round. Sounds like a perfect deal. We give em our 2nd rounder and maybe even Blair and we get their pick and take the best big man available. What do yall think? I think it's easily worth it.
Last edited by BatManu20; 06-24-2012 at 05:19 AM.
We're not trading with the Heat. No thanks.
test trade imaginable. They should deny it just to make a le run harder for them
Most if not all the names mentioned wouldn't be obtained through a trade...no way to turn it down but you can bet theyll sign another big name fa(vet) this summer- Steve Nash with the heat? Yikes.
Why the would the Spurs trade their pick AND Blair for a lame ass 27th pick who is 95% likely to be worse than Blair?
There's not going to be much better guys at 27 than in the 2nd round. Anyone good you get in the 2nd round are people the other teams don't want (literally, because they all have to pass on them at least once if not twice first).
The 27th pick is basically a 2nd round pick anyway. . .so there's no point in trading up to that ty draft slot.
Either your a troll or ing idiot. There's plenty of prospects to be had in this draft. Be awesome if it happend if not life goes on.
If there's so many great prospects then it won't matter if we trade one pick AND a servicable bench guy just to get a slightly higher pick for what would be a gamble anyway.
You are essentially defending this similar scenerio to point out how stupid your logic is:
Let's say we went to the gas station to get some snacks before the game. I buy some doritos, a coke, and a $5 lottery ticket. You buy some pringles, a dr pepper, and a $3 lottery ticket.
You look over at my ticket and say, damn dude, I wish I got that one, mine has a slightly less chance of a payout.
So you offer me your chips and your coke to trade tickets. I say sure, and we trade. We scratch them off, and both are losers.
Now we both have two useless pieces of cardboard, only I have a bag of chips, a can of pringles, and two sodas while you're sitting there with nothing but your in your hand and an empty stomach.
Best case realistic scenerio, you get a "free ticket" with your gamble. But the odds of me getting a free ticket are pretty much exactly the same. And , maybe you even win $6-8. But I could too, just barely less odds.
In other words, who gives a ? Keep the chips and soda. It's a stupid trade. If you made it, the only idiot here would be you.
Your scenario breaks down in the real world. SA won't agree to a trade until they know the guy they want is there. You agree to the pieces and parts in advance, but you don't pull the trigger until Miami is on the clock and you know the guy you want has fallen to #27. It's like I get to look at your scratch off after you scratch it, and then decide to trade or not. RC would then call Miami's draft room and say "It's on. Pick this dude".
First round picks are never traded blind on draft night. In fact, the actual pick is almost never traded on draft night. Team A drafts the player, and then trades the rights to that player to team B. It's a dodge to get around a rule that you cannot trade your first round pick in consecutive years. It's called the Stepien rule, named after the former Cavs owner from the early 80s who constantly traded his first rounders for broken down vets.
I trust the spurs FO when it comes to the draft I see it like this the higher the pick it is for the spurs the better. Spurs track record in the draft is pretty damn good and giving up players like Blair or bonner to get a better piece on this team seems good to me. Especially our frontline you can't say that you would love anOther year of bonner you wouldn't take the chance at all?
We should trade Tony, Manu, Splitter and Leonard for their 27th pick! Do it Pop! The 27th pick pretty much gets us the LO for the next 8 years!
Lets say we both go to the gas station. I buy a $5 lotto ticket, bag of doritos a Pepsi and some y peanuts. You buy a Dr. Pepper a bag of funyuns and a $2 lotto ticket. We go outside, I tell you to gfy because you're a dumbass piece of and I get in my car and leave.
Worst case scenario, I have to kick your ass.
I think Miami would do that deal. If they did I'd hope we could snatch Pittman or Cole in the deal as well (despite being overweight Pittman has surprisingly good activity at guarding the p&r, better than any big on the spurs at least)
Personally I'd hope we could at least get JaJuan Johnson and the 22nd pick for Blair and Neal. Not sure if Ainge would pull the trigger though.. Neal and Blair seem like players that would blossom in doc's/rondo's system.
there is no relationship btw these 2 things.
This is turning out a way better thread than I expected.
They won't give up Cole or Pittman, because they are cheap rotation pieces, something Miami desperately needs around their super expensive star power trio.
Why would they need Pittman if they're getting Blair? (in this scenario) does Pat realize 6'6 Centers don't cut it?
Sure there is. A pick requires at least a two year guaranteed salary outlay for a player who probably won't help them for a couple of years. Miami is at or maybe over the tax now, and their big three salaries will only grow over the next few years. They need players who can help now, not extra salary dollars for developmental players.
Did you see their dearth of big men in the rotation this year? They need Blair AND Pittman.Why would they need Pittman if they're getting Blair? (in this scenario) does Pat realize 6'6 Centers don't cut it?
Fair enough
Indiana is the most realistic trading partner they need a backup center, send them Splitter or possibly trade Splitter for one of the C's 1st round picks, as.they're also in need of a center.
I'd love to get Wroten at 27 if he's still there. While not at a position of need, Quincy Miller would be another good gamble if his slide continues. Or Marquis Teague. There's still going to be some talent there late in the first, and I'd love to see the Spurs trade in if Miami's just trying to slash salary.
Pick #27 is only slightly higher than pick #59?
Nash with the Heat would be a mistake. He cannot play defense, and the Heat are a defensive team. He would be a weakness. Sure he can dish and score, but the Heat win by getting stops. They have enough scoring.
Teams don't pass on picks. They target certain positions and roles. They don't look at a PG and say "nah" when they need a forward.
There's plenty good to be had at 27.
While its entirely not up to you, i should hope the fo agrees. I understand trading into the first round and would be happy to see it for the right deal, the 27th pick is hardly appealing. Plus helping the heat sounds like crap
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