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    Not for nothing, Parker's come a long way, but he's still not ripe yet.

    The Spurs made big time concessions to cover up for Parker's turnovers and rash shots and even his defense.

    Manu and Barry ahd to handle the ball a lot.

    Bowen had to take over guarding Billups.

    And Parker's backup Udrih is even more green!

    Not hating on Parker or Beno, and not posting anything an objetive Spurs fan doesn't already know, but our point guards are not the strength of our team.

    They will be, I am sure, with more experience, but right now, they still have a ways to go.

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    Not for nothing, Parker's come a long way, but he's still not ripe yet.

    The Spurs made big time concessions to cover up for Parker's turnovers and rash shots and even his defense.

    Manu and Barry ahd to handle the ball a lot.

    Bowen had to take over guarding Billups.

    And Parker's backup Udrih is even more green!

    Not hating on Parker or Beno, and not posting anything an objetive Spurs fan doesn't already know, but our point guards are not the strength of our team.

    They will be, I am sure, with more experience, but right now, they still have a ways to go.

    Do you really have 1m+ posts? Or is some kind of hack?

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    But they still won it all didn't they?
    I just can't wait what this team will become in near future!

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    Dude, Parker had one turnover. His defense (other than that dumb foul with 10 second remaining) was awesome. He guarded Billups awesome and shut down Rip. As many have said, Bowen wouldn't have been able to guard Billups if Parker couldn't handle Rip. I'd have to look at the tape, but I don't think the Parker was scored on at all until that layup at the end.

    Yeah his shot was off but he hit the shot to start the rally from nine back. Other than that, he handled the pressure well and fed Tim and Manu.

    Props on a game well played.

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    eh? Without Parker's penetration the Spurs don't win Games 1 & 2. Parker was the reason the Spurs were even in Game 3.

    You can't hold the Spurs' turnover fest in Games 3 & 4 on Parker. Detroit's D is pretty good and they did a great job at disrupting the motion offense in those games.

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    Back to Boxscore Basketball™ we go....

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    There sure are quite a few things Parker can work on (namely a more consistent jumpshot), and he tends to be out of control in big games, but his contribution to the 2005 championship is apparent. This Parker is way better than Parker 2003, when Pop was sitting his ass on the bench at the end of games.
    Parker played stellar defense throughout the series, and his playmaking is better than perceived (did anybody check his TO vs. Ginobili's? I am sure Many turned the ball over more, but then stats don't tell the whole story, just to point out Parker weren't as bad as people thought he was this series).

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    @ MB.


    But seriously, and I am not just talking about Game 7, Parker is not the most stable of PGs.

    I'm not sure at his age and with his NBA experience, we should expect him to be.

    He had one turnover in Game 7, because he didn't handle the ball as much as a starting PG should after he f'ed up in the 1st quarter.

    Yes, Parker is good... his penetration is great when the teardrop is falling and I will even point out that later in the series, he came up with a few big 3s.

    His defense on Hamilton was VERY good, but he could not hold Billups' jockstrap.

    When I look at these playoffs, the most important Spurs I will remember are Duncan, Ginobili, Horry, Bowen and then probably Parker in that order.

    I give Parker his props, but let's not act like he is friggin' bulletproof.

    The kid ain't no Ginobili.

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    Give him a break, he's only 23 wait a couple of years at least; besides that ... You know that ... EVA!!!

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    I'm willing to wait and am confident that Aprker will improve. Some people already have ordained him the next Magic Johnson.

    Seems more like Kenny Anderson with a hot girlfriend to me.

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    Who is ripe at 23?

    He's got plenty of time; he'll be great.

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    Tony Parker is still a work in progress. This is true.

    He's steadily getting better. In previous years, with his shot not falling, he'd have been useless, and Barry would have had to play 40 minutes.

    I think most Spurs fans by now are content with the idea of Parker as a third option, still steadily improving, and gradually taking on a bigger role in the offense behind Duncan and Ginobili as he improves. The exception would be French people in denial who still want him to be the superstar, and insecure Argentine people who want him off the team just in case he busts out all of a sudden.

    But neither of those last two groups are truly Spurs fans. So, all in all, things are good.

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    Yep, he's only 23 with 4 years exp. and 2 les under his belt, and he was smart enough to listen to Pop and give the ball to the right people. He did an incredible job on Billups and held his own against Hamilton. He still loses focus on the concept of distributing the ball and getting other guys into their offense at the expense of his own game. As good a penetrator as he is, Tony still gets caught in the paint picking up his dribble, and he needs to improve on his decisions when he does the pick and roll, but like I said he is only 23 and he is IMO tough as nails and is growing right before our eyes.

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    I am content with Parker as the third option. I hope he continues to work on his flaws this offseason. And I was impressed with Barry's limited duty as a point guard.

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    Parker is a vital component. He's taken for granted by too many Spurs fans and what he brings to the team is overlooked by a none too small minority. Without Parker's penetration and speed in the open court the Spurs' offense would stagnate. Sure, Parker didn't have the greatest of series in the Finals, but he wasn't terrible at all, despite what the boxscore jockeys might think. Time and time again playoff opponents find themselves having to adjust their team defense in order to stop his penetration. I saw a crazy stat that had 65% of Tony Parker's shot attempts for the season coming within 5 feet of the basket.

    When Steve Nash was 23 he was learning how to take a and wipe his ass in the league. Parker was ing starting at age 19 at the hardest position in the NBA skill-wise and he did that coming from a team called "Paris Basket Racing".

    I hate to say it and I'm probably the last person to really care about it but the animosity towards Parker among Spurs fans is due to his French nationality.

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    He has been with the Spur 4 years... and he isn´t mature yet?
    I´ll be honest. He is more a Shooting Guard than a Point Guard.

    The Spurs need a real veteran in the point (even as a backup) to become not only a dynasty but a legend... and not suffer that much.
    Now they´ve got Tony Parker. Just a scorer not assist or steals nor rebounds.

    I can´t remember last time TP made a Double Double, accept it the kid will never be Nash, Kidd or Billups... you need to born with that vision or talent and he hasn't.

    Of course the Spurs win, but they do without the contribution of TParker.
    He is still fading away (4 years since he arrived in SA) in clutch situation.
    It was just me or I see a 3 point airball and a fool foul against Rip Hamilton in the last seconds?

    Ginobili´s contract is a bargain compared with Tony Parker contract.
    Maybe they must switch positions. Manu PGuard and TPark SGuard.

    Greetings and congratulations Spurs!!!!!

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    I think many of you are looking at this the wrong way.

    How many teams would kill to have a THIRD option as good as Parker?

    Also, as great as Nash, Marbury, Kidd may be....how many of them have 2 championships under their belt? Parker has now played against each of them in the playoffs and Finals---and every time HIS team is the one that won. And it isn't like Parker averaged 8 ppg in those series either.

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    Tony Parker is in danger to become a new Stephon Marbury....

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    Dude, Parker had one turnover. His defense (other than that dumb foul with 10 second remaining) was awesome. He guarded Billups awesome and shut down Rip. As many have said, Bowen wouldn't have been able to guard Billups if Parker couldn't handle Rip. I'd have to look at the tape, but I don't think the Parker was scored on at all until that layup at the end.

    Yeah his shot was off but he hit the shot to start the rally from nine back. Other than that, he handled the pressure well and fed Tim and Manu.

    Props on a game well played.
    I agree with Ghostwritter. Parker was not acting like a staring PG of a NBA Champion Team. He didn't get people involved, and he didn't run the Spurs offense. He dissapointed me and Manu and Tim bailed him out. Or else, I think the Spurs organization would have seriously considered trading him this summer.

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    I think many of you are looking at this the wrong way.

    How many teams would kill to have a THIRD option as good as Parker?

    Also, as great as Nash, Marbury, Kidd may be....how many of them have 2 championships under their belt? Parker has now played against each of them in the playoffs and Finals---and every time HIS team is the one that won. And it isn't like Parker averaged 8 ppg in those series either.
    we don't need a third option. We need a TRUE Point Guard!

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    I have a question for all the hard-core Tony Parker lovers: How many more years do you think it will take before Tony is a complete point guard?

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    I agree with Ghostwritter. Parker was not acting like a staring PG of a NBA Champion Team. He didn't get people involved, and he didn't run the Spurs offense. He dissapointed me and Manu and Tim bailed him out. Or else, I think the Spurs organization would have seriously considered trading him this summer.

    He was playing against the second best defense in the NBA, a defense that dedicated itself to stopping his penetration. man, at times in the series Tim Duncan didn't look like the go-to man of a NBA championship team due to that defense.

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    Dude, Parker had one turnover. His defense (other than that dumb foul with 10 second remaining) was awesome. He guarded Billups awesome and shut down Rip. As many have said, Bowen wouldn't have been able to guard Billups if Parker couldn't handle Rip. I'd have to look at the tape, but I don't think the Parker was scored on at all until that layup at the end.
    Thats what I dont get today on the radio, everyone is ripping Parker for having only 8

    all they do, is AGAIN look at the boxscore.

    Hamilton didnt score on Parker in the 4th quarter with him on other than the stupid foul.

    Billups had 13, FIVE MORE THAN PARKER!!!

    The great Big Shot Billups witha big 5 more points.


    Tony Parker IMO, played a good game, and he did the LITTLE things to get the job done.

    Props to "Park"

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    I have a question for all the hard-core Tony Parker lovers: How many more years do you think it will take before Tony is a complete point guard?

    Tony Parker is a complete point guard.

    Damn, I hate Spurs fans.

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