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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    ...the New York Times -- surprisingly -- published a pretty good opinion piece.

    Defining Religious Liberty Down

    It may seem strange that anyone could look around the pornography-saturated, fertility-challenged, family-breakdown-plagued West and see a society menaced by a repressive puritanism. But it’s clear that this perspective is widely and sincerely held.

    It would be refreshing, though, if it were expressed honestly, without the “of course we respect religious freedom” facade.

    If you want to fine Catholic hospitals for following Catholic teaching, or prevent Jewish parents from cir cising their sons, or ban Chick-fil-A in Boston, then don’t tell religious people that you respect our freedoms. Say what you really think: that the exercise of our religion threatens all that’s good and decent, and that you’re going to use the levers of power to bend us to your will.

    There, didn’t that feel better? Now we can get on with the fight.
    Indeed.

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    It's my religious belief that children shouldn't be raped, that parents should leave their children's s alone, and that gays should be allowed to be gay. Why don't they respect my religious beliefs?

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    ...the New York Times -- surprisingly -- published a pretty good opinion piece.
    They always had a conservative author writing op-eds... Ross Douthat replaced Bill Kristol in that role.

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    Oh, and somebody should tell Douthat the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to Germany...

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    It's my religious belief that children shouldn't be raped, that parents should leave their children's s alone, and that gays should be allowed to be gay. Why don't they respect my religious beliefs?

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    It's my religious belief that children shouldn't be raped, that parents should leave their children's s alone, and that gays should be allowed to be gay. Why don't they respect my religious beliefs?
    Who are "they?"

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    Oh, and somebody should tell Douthat the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to Germany...
    Only if you'll tell Justice Ginsburg their laws don't apply over here, either.

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    well let's be honest all religions hate gay people, I know cir cision is popular among Judaism and Catholic priests are notorious for molesting little kids.

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    Only if you'll tell Justice Ginsburg their laws don't apply over here, either.
    Let's start with the fact that Justice Ginsburg can't "apply" any law.

    But besides that, what German laws has the US applied?

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    well let's be honest all religions hate gay people,
    I only know of one religion that "hates" sexuals and that would be Islam.

    Christian protestants, who worship using variations of the same Bible, are quite tolerant of sexuality some even marry them and ordain them to lead their worship services.

    I know cir cision is popular among Judaism
    Most of whom vote Democrat yet you seem to align yourself with the liberal left more than the conservative right.

    and Catholic priests are notorious for molesting little kids.
    Again, most of whom vote Democrat but, regardless, this is kind of unfair in that Catholics, per se, don't condone child rape as a part of their religion any more than, say, Muslims condone hanging gays...oh wait, perhaps that's a bad comparison.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Let's start with the fact that Justice Ginsburg can't "apply" any law.
    Thank God! Hey! I wonder how she feels about cir cision.

    But besides that, what German laws has the US applied?
    I don't know but, I'd be in favor of importing their drunk driving laws.

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    Thank God! Hey! I wonder how she feels about cir cision.

    I don't know but, I'd be in favor of importing their drunk driving laws.
    You're pretty bad sober... not sure I want to know what drunk Yoni sounds like...

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    Only if you'll tell Justice Ginsburg their laws don't apply over here, either.
    You'll have to provide a link to her stated acceptance of the German cir cision decision.

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    I only know of one religion that "hates" sexuals and that would be Islam.


    Their burqas are at the cleaners.

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    The Tolerance Enforcers

    They’re ever more intolerant of anything less than total ideological geneity.

    In Mayor Menino’s Boston, if you take the same view of marriage as President Obama did from 2009 to 2012, he’ll run your phobic ass out of town. But, if you want to toss those godless sodomites off the John Han Tower, he’ll officiate at your ribbon-cutting ceremony.
    It's as if there is a double-standard in the Democrat Party.

    Would someone please explain to me why the Mayor of Boston would allow 1.8 Million dollars of city funds to be given to a religion that believe sexuals should be put to death -- and then, preside at the ribbon cutting for the building for which that 1.8 Million dollars was given but, will threaten a fast-food chain with withholding a permit because their CEO and founder holds the same view of marriage the President of the United States held until just two or three months ago?

    I'm sincerely confused by the message...someone put me some knowledge on this one.

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    Doing anything for votes?

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    You'll have to prove that the Muslims they gave money personally want to put teh gheys to death. Otherwise you're full of as usual.

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    It's my religious right to deny the rights of others.

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    Easiest counterargument in the world to phobes' "religious freedom" argument: the First Amendment prevents Congress from making any laws that prefer one religion over another, due to the Establishment clause, effectively banning any religious laws tbh....

    This actually also doesn't leave the role of Morality Police to the states as per the Supreme Court's "secular purpose" test, so one could argue that gay marriage bans are uncons utional even at the state level, tbh....

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    The left is very tolerant -- as long as you agree with them.

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    human nature. goes for pretty much everyone regardless of political stripes. people like to be paid with a coin that bears their own image.

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    or at least, a passing resemblance . . .

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    since when has anyone when been denied the right to practice their religion? Did I miss something?

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    Veteran scott's Avatar
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    since when has anyone when been denied the right to practice their religion? Did I miss something?
    Every time a gay male tosses his husband's salad, an Angel loses its wings.

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