And are Nolanites the dumbest "Fanboys" of any respective franchise?
Lets examine the egregious plot holes in "The Dark Knight Rises" and how many respectiveeach plot hole deserves.
1. Batman is both a genius and a moron: Once again, Nolan makes batman clueless as to whats going on around him (gets led into traps, gets out-smarted by his enemies, cant figure out what his enemies' motives are, cant figure out who the kid who escaped is, cant figure out who the obvious enemy leader is despite the fact she seemed bent on getting the bomb etc) yet is also able to write flight software for a state of the art military machine in just under a month. As a software engineer, I give this EIGHT
2. Wayne loses his fortune because they had his thumb-print. Forget the fact that there's surveillance video and a dozen dead people to prove that the stock exchange was hijacked. Im sure once those transactions go through, theres no way of cancelling them! Worthless SEC! Worthless banking software!
This one was just such lazy ing writing. You couldnt think of a more logical and believable way for Wayne to lose his fortune? I think I have to give it TEN
3. Bane keeps the cops alive underground so he can kill them later with a bomb. Unbelievably stupid. TEN
4. "Mal" from Inception pretends to be a good guy even after the city gets hijacked and Bane takes control. Likewise, she never turns in Joseph Gordon Levitt or reveal his bomb tracking plan to Bane. Maybe she was having fun..maybe she wanted a backup plan. I dont know why considering she planned on partaking in the mass suicide. She also wants to fulfill her Daddy's dream despite the fact that Dad banished her savior. Lastly, she seemed mad at batman for killing her dad, this is why she stabbed him. Yet she liked him enough to have sex with him. I guess she's both a genius AND an idiot AND a .
TEN
5. Rhaul-Liam-Neeson takes over a prison after his daughter escapes and then keeps it running...or hands it over to Bane. Why? So that one day he can put his enemies in it?
Five
6. Bruce Wayne fakes his death. Why? At the end, everyone who knows his secret iden y is a good guy. What does killing himself off do besides negate the possibility of ever getting his fortune back? What the was the point of that? Oh..I know... ITS A STUPID "TOP SPINNING" GIMMICK TO REVEAL AT THE END TO DRAW BUZZ FOR HIS STUPID ING MOVIE!!!
TEN
7. Two armies armed with AK-47s and pistols run at each other "Braveheart" style and fight hand-to-hand because, evidently, they forgot they had guns.
SEVEN
8. We're really worried about walking on this thin ice....until Batman shows up. Now Im not worried and I'll light this ice on fire with this flare.
SIX
9. Catwoman the idiot. She sure was passionate during her "a storms coming" speech despite the fact that she really wanted "a clean slate" and a chance to start over. Again, she seems to be an idiot. If you want a second chance, associating yourself with these anarchists is probably not the way to go.
FIVE
10. Batman fixes his broken back with some rope and a punch to the back. Bane lets Batman live. These two are so incredibly bad they actually take you back to the absurd plot devices in the 1960s tv show. Thanks for letting me live and assuming it all goes to plan! Dr. Evil says Hi!
NINE
11. Bane's face is wrapped in a bloody towel post saving "Mal" but then needs a respirator to live. Funny because I thought the echo and amplification in his voice sounded like Darth Vader for half the movie. Now he needs the mask to live like Vader? Speaking of voice, what the was that? Nolan managed to out-do himself with the stupid voices. Was Bane's voice SUPPOSE to be comical? It sounded like a cross between Yoda and a dinosaur. Nolanites really are ing morons.
For the un-needed Star Wars rip-off and second stupid voice of the series, this one gets TEN
I really hope Nolan has minimal input on the new Superman film. We really dont need another stupid voice.
12. The bomb has a timer on it, despite not being made to be used as a bomb. The Russian physicist seemed to be the only one who speculated that the device could be converted to a bomb, yet the device seemed to be made for easy bomb conversion...just turn a few knobs around!
EIGHT
UPDATE:
13. "Mal" from Inception dies from the truck falling off the bridge yet Gordon seems just fine without a seat belt and a rolling nuclear bomb in the cargo area. Didnt these people see "Toy Story"?
EIGHT
14. Bane reads Gordon's "Confession" and people are suppose to believe that its really from Gordon. Why? Because its written down on paper? Why is that scene even relevant? To let the cops underground who dont have TV know that Batman is actually a good guy? Seriously, no one at the studio had the guts to tell Nolan his script is ty?
SEVEN
15. (this one stolen from the link)
Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?...3oYoaF9hw2D.99Bruce Wayne could barely walk without his robo-legs in the beginning of the movie from cartilage wearing out. This isn't something that heals all by itself. After he is stripped of his gear and thrown into the prison he seemingly has no troubles walking after a couple months of recovery. We are shown his robo-legs were taken when he is doing the exercises in shorts later in the prison scenes.
Eight
More to come later.
Last edited by da_suns_fan; 08-03-2012 at 02:29 PM.
I did not read most of your post as to avoid spoilers for The Dark Knight Rises but to asnwer your le question..
He is one of the best in Hollywood right now.
You're on a personal vendetta against the guy.
You must not like movies to hate him like you do. I mean really, what is your problem with him?
It probably has to do with the usage of guns in the movie.
Very solid points, and makes me like the movie less. Asshole.
you need to rearrange the BOLD
there are far worse writers. seen alone in the dark?
M Night Shymamalaynlyn
who wrote Plan 9 from outer space?
Goyer is the writer
OP
Throwaway for obvious ing reasons, and not a story of backing out like the others in this thread.
This is probably not going to surface to the top being as I'm coming to this thread late in the game, but I am a post-colleged age male who raped several girls through use of coercion, alcohol, and other tactics over a course of 3 years.
First off, I must say, I was at a dark and horrible place in my life, that I've since grown from. I'm ashamed of the person I was, if the people who I'm close to now knew who I was, I would be ruined. I'm known for being a great guy, friendly and easy to get along with, a community/political activist, a fervent volunteer in the community, and a person who rises through the ranks quickly due to successes at work. That was my mask, and I was good at it, so good that maybe I convinced myself along the line that was who I could really be, and that may of helped me change, and stop doing what I did.
I'm somewhat remorseful for what I did to those girls, but I don't think I could ever face them to apologize. I knew what I was doing was wrong, but I had this certain insatiable thirst that brought me to do what I did. I didn't know how to stop, and just when I thought maybe I could, I'd find myself back in my pattern, back on the hunt.
I'm a good looking guy, and I can get girls pretty easily. I'm currently married to a beautiful woman that I met during this time of my life (not someone I raped, but someone who knew my mask during this time). So, anyways, after a while it became boring to go after the s and sorority girls that would easily throw their Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_ after you. I wanted the thrill of the chase, and that's what led me to forcing myself on girls. I would find attractive girls that were self-conscious about their looks. Girls who were pretty in their own unique way, but not the outgoing sort, mostly introverts, and girls that didn't party or do wild things. Hopefully a girl who was a bit damaged, had a ty ex-boyfriend, or family issues, came from a small shut in town, that sort of thing. So, when I showed interest in them they'd be completely enamored, they'd almost be shocked that a popular, good-looking, and well liked guy would be talking to them. I'd have that initial meeting at the library, a coffeeshop, a work function, or a party where I had them convinced of what a great guy I was. I listened to them, and made them feel special, like they were a princess. Sometimes we might sort of hook-up that night (kissing, making-out, never anything more). The next day I'd call, and see when they wanted to get together again. I'd feign some excuse for not going out somewhere, but having them come over late in the night. It was college, and not a lot of people had transportation off campus, so it was typical for people to come over and watch a movie or something on a date.
They would come over, and I'd always make sure it was real cold in the room, cold enough so that when we started watching the movie I'd say something about being chilly, and grab a big fleece blanket for the both of us. We'd get kind of close, and then maybe ignore the movie for some kissing. After a while, we'd talk some more, and I'd start edging my hands around the under strap of the bra, or maybe a bit into her pants, just kind of playing on the edge to gauge her response. Some girls would stiffen up a little, and that's when you knew they didn't like what was going on. We were in my studio apartment, so the bed served as the couch, and it was easy to start sliding down throughout the movie so we'd be laying down. It was then that I could turn around and get on top of her. The girls usually didn't know how to respond. Some of them were into it, and those nights were usually consensual and boring sex, sometimes followed up by a few more nightly visits before getting the boot. However, the great nights were the ones who squirmed, ones who didn't want to give in. I'd have to shush them down, and try to work on them slowly enough so they didn't know what was going on until it was pretty much already happening. I'm a muscular guy, over 6' around 200 lbs. and most of these girls may have been 125-130, really tiny and easy to pin down. To be honest, even remembering it now, the squirming always made it better, they didn't want it to happen, but they couldn't do anything about it. Most girls don't say no either. They think you're a good guy, and should pick up on the hints, they don't want to have to say "no" and admit to themselves what's happening.
Alcohol helped. Having a few drinks during the movie, or doing a few jello shots that were "prepared for a party that weekend" would usually do the trick.
The aftermath was always different. Some girls left after about 15 minutes after. Some girls would stay until the morning and then leave. A few tried to call back, maybe blaming themselves for what happened or something. I never worried too much about being caught. Everyone knew me, and I worked with the police a lot, with administrators, and campus officials. I was on first name basis with the Chancellor and the President of Student Affairs, so if anything came down to a he/she-said I figured I'd be in the clear. Having her come over to my place also made it seem less predatory, as she came into my domain, and "could leave at any time".
I guess that's about it... If you have any questions about my life now or then, ask away.
Youre better off knowing the truth.
Goyer is the writer
OPAt least youre not defending the absurd writing, youre just blaming someone else.The Dark Knight Rises is a 2012 superhero film directed by Christopher Nolan, who co-wrote the screenplay with his brother Jonathan Nolan and the story with David S. Goyer.
No. He's not.
The biggest plothole is the fact that Batman uses weapons in the movie tbh..... clearly Bane could have been stopped simply by Batman lobbying to the government for draconian weapon laws, he certainly would have voluntarily handed that over with no fuss tbh.....
I didn't much like the film either, but it does seem like you're pissed more at the man himself than at the quality of his work.
How come batman sounds like Clint Eastwood only when his mask is on?
The planet's a big place. And there's this guy here named Avante.
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You make great points actually.
Nobody's answered my question about why a little boy with an accent is singing the national anthem. He's obviously from another country.
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