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    So I'm dumb as and don't really get the concept of win shares, other than Ginobili is rated #3 in active NBA players, anyone care to concisely explain it to me?

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    It's a function of how much a player contributes to his team on both ends of the court. This effectively means stat padders on bad teams get lower win shares than a guy who posts slightly less numbers but is on an elite team.

    Meanwhile, win shares per 48 minutes is a measure of how good a player is "per-minute". For example, Karl Malone has a very high win shares number because he didn't miss a lot of games and had a very long career; however Tim Duncan trumps him in win shares per 48 minutes.

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    players who only select certain games to play in that sheeds a WIN to stat pad their WIN SHARES... aka ginoboli and parker

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    WS shows exactly what a poor copy of MJ that Kobe really is.

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    Doesn't Kobe have sub .200 WS48?

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    Thanks guys

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    Doesn't Kobe have sub .200 WS48?
    Yeah, but it isn't like being .200 is bad. Jordan's career WS/48 is .250 (so is David Robinson's). .250 is superb, GOAT-esque WS/48.

    Kobe's at a paltry .184. Duncan's is .214. LeBron's is .233 for now (no declined years watering it down yet)


    And for more reference:

    Bird: .203
    Magic: .225
    Kareem: .228 (despite half a dozen declined years watering it down)
    Wilt: .248
    Shaq: .208


    And Pau Gasol each year as a Laker:

    .239
    .223
    .220
    .232
    .165 (Kobe .132 same year)

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    Lemme guess... Bynum led the Lakers in WS48 last season.

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    Lemme guess... Bynum led the Lakers in WS48 last season.
    He did.

    top 5 for LA last year:

    Bynum: .183
    Gasol: .163
    Barnes: .142
    Bryant: .132
    Sessions: .131

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    Koolaid Man is not gonna approve that stat tbh

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    Koolaid Man is not gonna approve that stat tbh
    Luckily, nobody who matters gives a what his lame opinion is.

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