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No...he wouldn't be the greatest center of all time.
Most say that he is originally a Center. If he we considered him a center from the start, would he be the greatest of all-time to???
I think so... and you???
No...he wouldn't be the greatest center of all time.
He might be a top 5 center of all-time, but nowhere close to 1.
1. Wilt
2. Kareem
3. Russel
4. Hakeem
5. Shaq (it pains me to say it)
he's pretty damn good. let's not try to trade him too.
Why is Shaq ahead of Duncan? Tim has 3 rings at a younger age than Shaq got his first. He's a way more versitale player, and he has a more complete game. Tell me when you've ever seen Shaq lead a break, hit from the three point line, or switch on a pick and roll. Shaq has never been anything close to the defender Tim is. Shaq also doesn't have the All-NBA awards Tim has. I know... there's 2 forward slots and only one center slot, but Duncan has been voted a top 2 forward each of his eight years in the league while Shaq was All-NBA 3rd team in 94, 96, and 97. Shaq had 3 in a row, but Tim has taken 3 with 3 completely different teams.
timmy d winning a le without david was huge when it comes to this ranking crap.
Maybe because Shaq has been to the finals more times than Duncan, and lost more times too..
I don't know..
The media...
one of the 50 greatest players of all time, early..
in between those.. I really don't agree with that, but ahh who cares we all know the truth.
Shaq is unstoppable. That's why.
I don't think Timmy has ever started out playing the Center spot.
Shaq is unstoppable which is why he has won the last three les...
Or maybe he WAS unstoppabe 4 years ago and is now just a great player.
You can't worry about a player's legacy at age 29. Jesus. Jordan won his sixth at the age of what, 35?
Tim is a great player that persevered through two bad ankle injuries, a team with a rotating player rotation, and the most rugged frontline the nba has seen in the last 10 years.
Stick around, the best may be yet to come.
You only have Russel as 3?
I think he is #1 with Wilt being 2nd.
Besides, all of these guys essentially played in different eras. You can only really compare them to the compe ion of their day.
Shaq being the most dominant center of his day (post Robinson and Hakeem).
Hakeem being the greatest center of his day (with Robinson coming in later, and second).
I always considered david robinson a PF that played center
and duncan a Center that played power forward
duncan could never perfrom good as a center, that is why we had to go out and get a center, and when mailk played center, and horry insted of TiM
there is no way tim could be the best center of all time
he can be the best PF comapred to comition
he is better than karl malone, better than rasheed which plays him the hardest in the nba,(besides ben wallace a center), and he is about even with Keven garnet, slightly above since he has won more, but KG sort of like a young david robinson pretty athletc, that new kid playing for the suns can improve too but right now tim is better than him
so if we look at current peopel Tim is best PF, comapred to old PFs, he is pretty high ranking, but Tim hats playing center because simple put he isn't as good at it.
I can't really make an opinion on kareem, wilt, russell cause I didn't see them play and they played with different rules and easier compe ion. If we put timmy in as a center I would rank my top 5 as:
1. hakeem
2. td
3. shaq/robinson
5. ewing
Realy?
I thing that Dave would do so too and hakeem.
And what about the calls on Shaq's offesive fouls in 60 and 70 ?
Get real
Here's my problem with shaq. For about the last 5 years his offense had relied heavilly on shoving or pushing his defender out of the way. Which should be called as offensive fouls, which aren't called. Shaq when he was first in the league didn't have to do that. So snaq's numbers are a little skewed offensively because he gets away with more then any other player I've ever seen.
Shaq was a great defender for 5 or 6 years of his career. The rest he's been good or adequate. Let's give him the ref's help, what else can he do to score the last 5 years? Outside of 6 ft he's worthless.
td on the other hand has been a great defender for his entire career and on offense he can score from inside the 3 pt line.
No Duncan would rank below Robinson as a "pure" center but ahead of Ewing Id say 7th since I have dave at 6
1.Russell- NEVER SEEN EITHER PLAY BUT IM TRYIN TO BE OBJECTIVE
1a.WILT-
3.DREAM
4.KAREEM
5.SHAQ
6.ROBINSON
7.DUNCAN
I would have loved to see what an in his prime Hakeem would have done against Wallace, Wallace, and McDeyess.
A 95 Houston- 05 Detriot matchup would be pretty fantastic, imo.
Relating to this topic, "BiggDrew" made a fantastic Karl Malone/Tim Duncan comparrison on JazzHoops.net
TD is a Power Forward....He played with DRob, he played with Rasho and with Nazr, none of whom are PFs. TD never jumps center at starts of games either, he is a PF, nuff said.
It goes:
1. Kareem
2. Russel
3. Wilt
4. Dream
5. Admiral
As great as Duncan has been Malone in his prime is better. His stats prove it.
Stats? Karl Malone didn't have anyone else on his team to score. Tim has Manu and Tony, and isn't even in his prime yet.
What about Hornacek. That guy was sick.
**I'm not defending Malone**
I'm saying Hornacek is cool.
That is what I am saying. Karl Malone had very little help on his team for most his career while Duncan does have help.
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