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    I just don't know if I can handle another season with Matt Bonner and Blair on the roster. It has become AGONIZING. I'm beginning to wonder, are there ANY possible scenarios at all that would allow us to trade Bonner, Blair, and (probably Neal, since SG is an expendable position), for an upgrade at backup PF or Center?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?


    I'm getting desperate here guys.





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    This has been discussed in several threads bud.

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    No, but we somehow found a way to trade the rights to Scola for a bag of frozen tacos

    Go figure

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    If they wanted to get anybody decent they would have to throw in Jack who is an expiring contract.

    Jack+Blair+Neal makes a lot of sense. Increasing Leonard's minutes to 30+ a game leaves less pt for Jack, you could also probably put in Green at SF. Neal is terrible at PG making him strictly a SG where they've got De Colo, Manu, Green, it's Neal's job to lose at PG where you've got Mills and Cojo and possibly Manu/DC as well.

    The SG and PG is pretty interchangeable with the players the Spurs have, I've seen Mills and TP on the court at the same time (TP at SG). Blair is expendable, there is no way Bonner ever gets traded no matter how bad he does.

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    Let's get Varejao, tbh

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    Bonner, Neal and Blair for Channing Frye? I don't even...

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=9t2tu73

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    Trading those fellows for a guy who will miss the rest of the season is a waste

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    Totally down for this!!! Do it Mitch!!!

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    Trading those fellows for a guy who will miss the rest of the season is a waste
    Didn't even know, tbh. That's how much I cared.

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    No. Next question...

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    If there was some way we could get Marcin Gortat from Phoenix i'd in my pants. He's only got one more year left on his deal. Unfortunately, that one year costs almost $8 million dollars. Would be nice though. He's perfect for our system.

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    Yes. First, find a team that wants to trade a decent big for Bonner, Blair and Neal.

    Second...

    Oh, still stuck on step one. Whoops.

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    There are periods in the NBA were trade happens. The first one is the last 2-3 days before the trade deadline in February and the second one is between late June and Mid July. Other than at these periods, teams rarely do trades, so forget it. It will be time to talk about that at the trade deadline.

    Right now, Spurs FO priority is to evaluate exactly what they have and what they need. For example, some questions that need answers:
    - Diaw is less fat and knows more the system but is he a legit starter for a contender?
    - Blair is in a better shape, motivated and with a better mid-range game but is he good enough to enter in the rotation?
    - Do Spurs need another seven footer?
    - Can Splitter be more than the backup C and can he play alongside Duncan?
    - How much small ball Spurs should/will play and should they add a player for these cases?
    - Who will be the backup PG and will he be good enough?
    - Is Neal still needed?
    - How much Manu and Jack have left in the tank?
    - Is there a way for Spurs to really improve their defense?

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    I'm going to answer to those questions
    These questions don't have true answers for the moment. There is, of course, most likely answers but there are still a relatively high level of uncertainty around them.

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    There are periods in the NBA were trade happens. The first one is the last 2-3 days before the trade deadline in February and the second one is between late June and Mid July. Other than at these periods, teams rarely do trades, so forget it. It will be time to talk about that at the trade deadline.

    Right now, Spurs FO priority is to evaluate exactly what they have and what they need. For example, some questions that need answers:
    - Diaw is less fat and knows more the system but is he a legit starter for a contender?
    - Blair is in a better shape, motivated and with a better mid-range game but is he good enough to enter in the rotation?
    - Do Spurs need another seven footer?
    - Can Splitter be more than the backup C and can he play alongside Duncan?
    - How much small ball Spurs should/will play and should they add a player for these cases?
    - Who will be the backup PG and will he be good enough?
    - Is Neal still needed?
    - How much Manu and Jack have left in the tank?
    - Is there a way for Spurs to really improve their defense?
    Jeez
    You're ruining the thread with rational thinking

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    Right now, Spurs FO priority is to evaluate exactly what they have and what they need.
    - Do Spurs need another seven footer?
    If they don't know the answer to this question by now, they will never know the answer.

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    - Yes, by trading Blair and Bonner for a defensive 7 footer
    Care to elaborate?

    Give us an example of such a player, because If I'm the GM of a team that has a defensive 7-footer making 4-5M per year, I'm certainly not going to be interested in trading him for Bonner and Blair.

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    I just don't know if I can handle another season with Matt Bonner and Blair on the roster. It has become AGONIZING. I'm beginning to wonder, are there ANY possible scenarios at all that would allow us to trade Bonner, Blair, and (probably Neal, since SG is an expendable position), for an upgrade at backup PF or Center?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?


    I'm getting desperate here guys.





    There is only one way to get rid of Bonner;

    Get rid of Pop first


    If that doesn't happen - then getting rid of Bonner isn't gonna happen either.

    Fact.

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    As Bruno noted, I don't expect any activity until at least the trade deadline. The Spurs have tried to rid themselves of Blair but have not received the right price so maybe with a slimmer Blair, he can raise his level of interest around the league in the first part of the season. I'm on board with trading S. Jackson as long as we can get a phyical defensive big in return. Varajao seems like a perfect fit for the Spurs in that he can rebound, defend the pick and roll and brings an intensity and physicalness to the frontcourt. My only apprehension is that he is a bit injury prone.

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    After a 23 rebound performance in the 1st game, I doubt the Cavs would want to trade him so the point is probably mute.

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    If they don't know the answer to this question by now, they will never know the answer.
    Well, the answer at this question highly depend on what the Lakers are doing. If Lakers struggle and/or if Dwight is nowhere near his previous level, then Spurs need way less to add a random 7 footer.

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    Cavs get:
    Nando
    Blair
    Bonner
    Neal

    Spurs get:
    Varejao


    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bs6re6h


    Check out the win difference for the Spurs.
    Last edited by Shifty; 10-31-2012 at 12:50 PM.

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    SA won't get a starting material PF/C for this garbage package.

    Thinking about everything (teams with a glut of BIGs and a player that could possibly help SA now) the only guy I can come up with for THIS package is Al Harrington. He is a vet, he can stretch the floor (something that Pop loves) and he is better than Blair and Bonner.

    Orlando has a glut at the PF position (Big Baby, Nicholson, Harrington and McRoberts) and I am pretty sure Harrington is expendable. Davis is the starting PF, McBob is an expiring and Nicholson is a Ryan Anderson clone ready to be developed.

    It would be pure salary dump for Orlando.

    Boris/Harrington
    Timmy/Splitter

    Looks like a better rotation than what SA has now. Still, Harrington is an expensive player (6.6m this year, 7.1m and 7.6m next). The last 2 years of his contract are only 50% guaranteed. Personally, I think SA would and should pass on this, but for this package, I think that's the kind of return people should expect.

    SA will never grab Varejao for this package. Whoever thinks the Cavs would accept Bonner, Blair and Neal for Andy is really delusional. (it doesn't even work salary-wise btw).

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    The trade included Nando and did worked. Adding De Colo, who is a very interesting young SG, position that is a need for the Cavs is not that crazy. Not saying they will take it though.

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    SA won't get a starting material PF/C for this garbage package.

    Thinking about everything (teams with a glut of BIGs and a player that could possibly help SA now) the only guy I can come up with for THIS package is Al Harrington. He is a vet, he can stretch the floor (something that Pop loves) and he is better than Blair and Bonner.

    Orlando has a glut at the PF position (Big Baby, Nicholson, Harrington and McRoberts) and I am pretty sure Harrington is expendable. Davis is the starting PF, McBob is an expiring and Nicholson is a Ryan Anderson clone ready to be developed.

    It would be pure salary dump for Orlando.

    Boris/Harrington
    Timmy/Splitter

    Looks like a better rotation than what SA has now. Still, Harrington is an expensive player (6.6m this year, 7.1m and 7.6m next). The last 2 years of his contract are only 50% guaranteed. Personally, I think SA would and should pass on this, but for this package, I think that's the kind of return people should expect.

    SA will never grab Varejao for this package. Whoever thinks the Cavs would accept Bonner, Blair and Neal for Andy is really delusional. (it doesn't even work salary-wise btw).
    harrigton is pretty much the worst player ever to play in the league, he is a pure cancer.

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