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Doesn't this happen to Kirby in like every game?
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Doesn't this happen to Kirby in like every game?
Link? YouTube? Otherwise you're just talking per par.
The Heat were ted on and LeBron was personally schooled/embarrassed in det play. Neal with it son.
Oh yeah, I forgot you can't watch the games over there. If you could, you'd know that Kobe's defense has gotten exponentially worse over the past 3 years and that he's little more than a traffic cone these days for would be penetrators. Luckily, he's always had Pau and Bynum (and now Howard) guarding the rim, so the players who blow by his slow ass don't usually finish with a climatic dunk that makes youtube.
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No. The more damning thing is that every metric I’ve broken down here has Kobe’s defensive impact as utterly average. -0.8, -0.6, 0.1, 0.1, these are not numbers of someone who is consistently a game changer on defense. The other guys given even half the love Kobe’s gotten over the year, pretty consistently do turn up on these metric doing quite well.
I’ll point out also: it’s not that +/- considers Kobe vastly overrated across the board. If I were to post the analogous charts for Kobe on offense, he’d typically look like a superstar. Both Ilardi & Engelmann’s 6 year metrics rank Kobe as a top 3 offensive player in the game.
This statistic isn’t saying Kobe is extremely overrated in all parts of his game, only his defense shows such shockingly weak values.
http://asubs uteforwar.com/2011/05...er-imaginable/
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...ated-defenders
From your same punkass link:Oh yeah, I forgot you can't watch the games over there. If you could, you'd know that Kobe's defense has gotten exponentially worse over the past 3 years and that he's little more than a traffic cone these days for would be penetrators. Luckily, he's always had Pau and Bynum (and now Howard) guarding the rim, so the players who blow by his slow ass don't usually finish with a climatic dunk that makes youtube.
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No. The more damning thing is that every metric I’ve broken down here has Kobe’s defensive impact as utterly average. -0.8, -0.6, 0.1, 0.1, these are not numbers of someone who is consistently a game changer on defense. The other guys given even half the love Kobe’s gotten over the year, pretty consistently do turn up on these metric doing quite well.
I’ll point out also: it’s not that +/- considers Kobe vastly overrated across the board. If I were to post the analogous charts for Kobe on offense, he’d typically look like a superstar. Both Ilardi & Engelmann’s 6 year metrics rank Kobe as a top 3 offensive player in the game.
This statistic isn’t saying Kobe is extremely overrated in all parts of his game, only his defense shows such shockingly weak values.
http://asubs uteforwar.com/2011/05...er-imaginable/
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...ated-defenders
Now stop deflecting. This is a LeBron thread. GTFO with your Laker hating bull .
Clip is from the comment section, provided by a Kirby fanboy, of course.
Lebron is a head-and-shoulders better defender than your hero ever was. The fact he can play lockdown perimeter defender while never having a more than halfway decent shot blocker behind him (something Kobe has had 14 of his 17 seasons in the league) is pretty amazing. Quit the hate, son. Appreciate.
Hey. Will the hiring of Mike 'Antoni (see what I did there? Left out the D because Pringles's teams aren't known for the defense) make us "All Pay For Our Basketball Reasons?"
Isn't Pringles 0-3 against Pop in the playoffs?
Clip is from the comment section, provided by a Kirby fanboy, of course.
Lebron is a head-and-shoulders better defender than your hero ever was. The fact he can play lockdown perimeter defender while never having a more than halfway decent shot blocker behind him (something Kobe has had 14 of his 17 seasons in the league) is pretty amazing. Quit the hate, son. Appreciate.
Hey. Will the hiring of Mike 'Antoni (see what I did there? Left out the D because Pringles's teams aren't known for the defense) make us "All Pay For Our Basketball Reasons?"
frankly, he was my choice as DPOY last year.
That one play pretty much sums up the Lakers perimeter D.
wonderful display of awareness by kobe
All-defensive team means jack anyways, how the is the DPOY only the 2nd team? Has that ever happened before?
One play > the other 10,000 plays.
People are stupid.
Only one player in this league can defend all 5 positions. If you don't think Lebron is a great defender you're a re .
So who has he guarded? Like every other revisionist you're basing this on the few plays he guarded D-Rose a few yrs back. Fact is Lebron runs from Defensive assignments. Sure he can chase down and block from behind but he's far for a lock-down defender in his prime. Lebron is afraid of the challenge... In fact he defers ALL of the tough assignments to Battier..just watch that ...
Clip is from the comment section, provided by a Kirby fanboy, of course.
Lebron is a head-and-shoulders better defender than your hero ever was. The fact he can play lockdown perimeter defender while never having a more than halfway decent shot blocker behind him (something Kobe has had 14 of his 17 seasons in the league) is pretty amazing. Quit the hate, son. Appreciate.
Hey. Will the hiring of Mike 'Antoni (see what I did there? Left out the D because Pringles's teams aren't known for the defense) make us "All Pay For Our Basketball Reasons?"
Kinda like MJ did with Pippen, or Kobe did with Deaven George/Rick Fox/Trevor Ariza/Ron Artest.
And I think anyone who watched last years finals saw how much trouble he was able to give Durant when he switched onto him in crunch time. Dude couldn't get a clean shot off whether trying to take Lebron straight up, through picks, or off the ball. He was nearly useless when Lebron locked into him.
Kobe was first team Defense that year too.
LeBron takes the assignment in crunch time. Watch a game every now and then.
I'm OK with that. No different from Pop hiding Duncan on our scrub "PF" all game instead of having him guard Shaq and foul out in no more than 14 minutes.
We all know he'll get superstar leeway defensively in the clutch. No ref has balls big enough to call a foul on him. That allows him to be ultra agressive. But the fact remains he is a really good weakside shotblocker. Those swats make SportsCenter because of his name.
To add onto what Kool was alluding to, if LBJ shut D-Rose down the way Kobe shut AI down throughout the game, you'd have a point. To do it during the waning moments of the game when we knew Chicago had no other options isn't really saying much IMO. He's a good defender. You guys need to stop acting like he is great. He's not.
LeBron is better than Kobe and it kills you inside knowing that. Jealously is leading you to horrible threads like this and I feel bad for you. You're embarrassing yourself..
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LeBron is younger than Kobe. Kobe's skillset > LeBron's. That's the difference in my book. There is nothing LeBron can do at age 26 that Kobe can't do at age 33. This is actually kind of sad.
Oh, and I'm embarrassing myself for showing LeBron get posterized? If it were Kobe it would have 2,000 replies. It's cool though.
Averaging 30/8/7 for startsLeBron is younger than Kobe. Kobe's skillset > LeBron's. That's the difference in my book. There is nothing LeBron can do at age 26 that Kobe can't do at age 33. This is actually kind of sad.
Oh, and I'm embarrassing myself for showing LeBron get posterized? If it were Kobe it would have 2,000 replies. It's cool though.
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