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    "Maybe it's my mistake not to think that injury and illness when you're secreting someone away should also include deciding to move them out," Stern said. "So in all of the cir stances, I thought that if we didn't do something this time, there would never be a reason to do it.


    "(It was the Spurs') only visit to Miami, practically the first month of the season. Notifying nobody and sending home young and healthy players merited a rebuke and I did it."


    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8718626/nba-commissioner-david-stern-says-san-antonio-spurs-rested-too-many-players-too-early

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    "virtually under cover of darkness"? What the ? The man is ing delusional.

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    Stern still crying about it being the only visit to Miami

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    the "only visit to Miami" is foreboding. sounds like Heatles will get ring no. 2 this year.

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    I have a bigger problem with this part:

    I would suggest to you if we had been notified it wouldn't have happened, so maybe from their perspective they did the right thing. --Stern
    What the is that supposed to mean? It's one thing to fine teams for doing things you think against the interest of the game. It's another to jump in there and prevent it when it's happening.

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    And Spurs did not appeal the fine? Weak.

    I thought the inactive list is there so you don't have to makeup dubious injuries? Granted, we had more than 3, but still...

    And if you're gonna fine them at the beginning of the season, there's really no fan-friendly reason for not fining them at the end of the season. Those people still buy tickets and don't get to see stars resting for the playoffs.

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    I can't be the only one wishing that Stern's retirement was this year. The hypocrisy.

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    OK. And you Stern.

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    He can lick my aft hole!!

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    spurs obviously needed the rest
    look how many guys we have injured now

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    "Notifying nobody and sending home young and healthy players merited a rebuke and I did it."

    Tim is 36.

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    Reading between the lines, I don't think Holt is actually going to pay the fine.

    -Stern used this as a warning shot to the rest of the league. The "if we don't do something about it now, we'd never have a chance to do anything" sounds more aimed at the league on a whole than at the Spurs.

    -The Spurs haven't addressed the issue at all. From players to coaches to the team's media, it's made to be a complete non-issue. It's been so hush-hush that it seems like a command from the top.

    -Both sides are pulling the "I'm just doing my job" card. It sounds like there were some discussions behind the scenes.

    -If the Spurs were to fight this, they'd probably win. Holt isn't one to gift $250K.

    It'll be interesting to see how Pop handles it from here on but I'm willing to bet that the $250K fine was rather just a wink-wink warning.
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    He can lick my aft hole!!
    Damn u want stern to toss ur salad? HAHAAHA damn thats funny LMFAO!!!!

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    Reading between the lines, I don't think Holt is actually going to pay the fine.

    -Stern used this as a warning shot to the rest of the league. The "if we don't do something about it now, we'd never have a chance to do anything" sounds more aimed at the league on a whole than at the Spurs.

    -The Spurs haven't addressed the issue at all. From players to coaches to the team's media, it's made to be a complete non-issue. It's been so hush-hush that it seems like a command from the top.

    -Both sides are pulling the "I'm just doing my job" card. It sounds like there were some discussions behind the scenes.

    -If the Spurs were to fit this, they'd probably win. Holt isn't one to gift $250K.

    It'll be interesting to see how Pop handles it from here on but I'm willing to be that the $250K fine was rather just a wink-wink warning.
    I thought the same thing once it appeared the Spurs wouldn't be fighting it. I know the Spurs as an organization typically avoid drama, but this had all the makings of a backroom mafiaso type deal. Pop gave Stern the finger, and res ution had to be made for his ego's sake. The money is irrelevant, its the mere act of punishment that is important. I don't even think the resting players bit mattered, because Pop has done this many times with no problem. Before the game even occurred writers were saying Pop might pull this off just to stick it to the league for screwing them on the schedule to make Miami look good. Stern saw it coming, and he was not happy.

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    neither side conceded which means this was a draw.

    Pop will probably rest his players again but this time he probably won't include a young scrub with them. He also might not rest all 3 at the same time. And he will wait at least till 2013 to do it again.

    and no, Spurs are not paying the fine either.

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    "Notifying nobody and sending home young and healthy players merited a rebuke and I did it."

    Tim is 36.
    I think he was referring to Danny Green, who, as it turns out, has a bad hamstring, which may have been bothering him. If nothing else, it proves that you don't just assume someone's healthy just because they're young.

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    I'm tired of the "Only visit to Miami" argument. We all know damn well the people in Miami didnt pay to see the Spurs that night. They pay to see LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. And we all know Miami's arena is half empty most of the time anyway, so why does Stern care?

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    It's really touching to discover how much David Stern cares about the scalpers in south Florida.

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    The part implying the league's right to veto a move like this one sounds troubling, but seems almost unenforceable in any real sense.

    It's also really odd for Stern to publicly give license to tanking late in the season while nitpicking roster management decisions early in the season.

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    Nobody will ever know if Holt or anybody in the Spurs organization will ever write a check for 250K to "the league."

    I agree that this fine is simply a public rebuke. Stern refused to get punked by Pop, so in this case, the money is immaterial. The fine will never be paid - Stern might as well have fined the Spurs $2.5 million.

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    Stern's message: It's okay to tank when ping pong balls are at stake. It's not okay to coach your team in a way your organization believes will maximizes its chances of winning a championship.

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    Stern's real message to Pop: "Don't humiliate me publicly. The size of my ego is inversely proportional to the size of my penis."

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    Hopefully Stern dies of a heart attack soon and puts us all out of his misery.

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    I really have no problem with them not fighting this, just like I have no problem with them doing it. No sense antagonizing the league when you have an outside shot at a championship. The message was sent. The league was embarrassed. Let it go, and lets watch some good ball.

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    It's a poorly considered punishment that becomes an even worse precedent every time Stern talks about it. He's either never going to punish a team in this manner (because it wasn't their only trip to Miami (and literally only Miami), or because it wasn't that early in the season, or because of some other meaningless factual distinction from the Spurs situation) or he's going to start truly micromanaging roster decisions by imposing draconian fines for those who make decisions that the league doesn't like. He's now all but said that teams seeking to rest healthy players must get league pre-clearance and suggested that the league can and will deny permission to do that.

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