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at everyone in Lubbock getting excited over a hire just because he went here 11 years ago
one year wonder as an OC with a heisman QB to work with
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Personally, I think this is a stupid move by both Tech and Kingsbury.
Tech is very difficult place to get recruits to come to. And with the rapid emergence of Texas A&M, all of the high quality recruits go to A&M, UT, OU and some SEC schools. OSU even recruit better than Tech. Only the crumbs of 2 and 3 stars are left for Tech to rummage through. Kingsbury could have and should have used that Tech offer as leverage to get a raise at A&M and ride out Johnny Football the next two years and then accept a HC at a big school. Total susicide going to Tech.
Tech just hired a guy who has 5 total years of coaching under his belt, with no HC experience, not even at the HS level. Without Johnny Football, how great would Kingsbury have been?
This hire has train wreck written all over it.
one year wonder as an OC with a heisman QB to work with
Look at it this way: we hire Clemson guy and he sucks, its a waste of money. We hire him and he does a good job, he uses us to leapfrog to a bigger school. Either way we never know what we coulda had in Kingsbury.
Now if we hire Kingsbury and he shows promise, he'll be given a lot more leeway. If he does a good job he won't be as inclined to leave because he went to Tech and he knows that both parties are taking a huge risk with this hire.
Could he really be worse than 5-7?
Meh. Not the best hire ever, but not much out there to choose from.
The part that concerns me is that he is now the face and voice of Tech football and I'm not sure I've ever heard him say more than 5 words.
It's also gonna be intimidating for him looking across the field against UT and OU knowing that Mack and Stoooooooops were both coaching during Kliff's playing days.
The plus is that if he wins a lot of games, you can probably safely wager that he will stay for a long time and really, at this point, what is there to lose?
Not thrilled, but don't hate it either
I still think s would have been the perfect guy.
If only ass tubs had left town a week sooner.
Instead of "stupid" I'd use the word "risky" as it applies to Kingsbury and "wreckless" as it applies to Tech. I don't know what KK's long term career goals are, but if becoming the head coach at Tech was near the top of his list then I can't fault the guy too much for taking it.
Tech on the other hand doesn't appear to be putting any deeper thought into this hire than "remember the good old days when KK played here and we were decent"? Leach did a fantastic job carving out a niche for Tech and by bringing in KK, Tech is betting on him being able to find that niche again. But I'm not sure that niche for Tech exists anymore. KK's recruiting job is going to be a of a lot more difficult than Leach's was. Leach could offer kids the chance to play in a video game offense if they would come to Lubbock. KK will be able to offer kids the same thing, only A&M, Baylor and OKState will be offering those same kids the chance to play in an equally video game-ish offense in towns that are a of a lot closer to wherever they're from than Lubbock is. On top of that A&M will be offering SEC football. A&M and Baylor will have a pair of recent Heisman trophy winners to show off. TCU is also a bigger challenge to KK than it was to Leach via TCU getting into the Big12. Add it all up, and I'm just not sure KK is going to be able to recruit well enough to make it work.
It's a risk but its the right risk. He is a very smart football mind, learned under Leach then went to the NFL and learned under a couple of guys named Belichick and McCarthy. He is inexperienced as far as playing politics but as far as the coaching aspect is concerned he's ready now. To swing and miss on Morris while Kingsbury flourishes elsewhere would be something this fanbase couldn't handle right now.
i was more concerned about losing our DC than kingsbury. sumin essentially just had kk run his offense. be interesting to see if aggies hire up a skills coach or seek out an OC from somewhere else.
Very insightful post. There is now a lot of compe ion for QB's and WR's that want to play in the Air Raid, compounded by newly found SEC compe ion, that Leach didn't have to deal with it. Add SMU and UH to the mix also.
Last edited by Twisted_Dawg; 12-13-2012 at 07:22 AM. Reason: Add SMU
the recruiting job was already that tough for Tubs, who was selling that same product that was being sold by those other schools.
The question is, who out there right now would for sure recruit better than Kliff?
Mack Brown was unavailable, tbh.
I think Morris would have been the better recruiter than KK will be, given his ties to the Texas high schools. They could have even rolled the dice with Petrino.
I think Petrino would have been a solid hire, but I think he wanted to be at Western Kentucky and was just as likely to pull a Tuberville move as Tub.
maybe Morris recruits better, maybe not. Although he probably still has some connections, he's not exactly a house hold name.
I guess Kliff is the slightly better pick of the two mediocre selections, only because it's a splashy move.
Still smh lamenting s going to Cal.
Petrino definitely would have been a short timer. Still would have been worth it IMO. Even if he only sticks around for two years he'd leave Tech in a better spot than Tubs did. Maybe Patterson, Briles, Snyder or Gundy would have moved on by then which would also improve Tech's position.
Definitely crappy that Tech misses out on s. Tubs timing couldn't have been worse for Tech. What a dewsh.
Aggies say goodbye via video:
-Already burned Tubs with the "i love the wind" comment
-Referred to a&m as "that other university"
Already a step up from PBT
Kliff is awesome. Good luck to him.
He may get Cincy in the conference next year.
It's good to have someone who wants to be there.See above.
Cal is a slightly more attractive job than Tech.
Again, I can't blame Tubbs. He learned the hard way that the Big XII is much tougher than the SEC.
Tubs brought on his own misery.
When hired he said he was going to run a 3-4 as other coaches told him that was the only way to stop Big 12 spreads. He failed to realize Tech could never recruit the DL necessary to run a 3-4. Then he hires some idiot from Alabama as DC that was fired a year later for beating his wife.
Next, Tubs said he was switching to a 4-2-5 and hired another incompetent DC from TCU. That guy was forced out of town a year later and went back to TCU.
Year three, Tubs goes back to a 4-3 with ANOTHER DC.
THREE DIFFERENT DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS AND THREE DIFFERENT DC's IN THREE YEARS.
When hired Tubs said he was going to be the ST coach. Last season two games in a row where kicks were block with rushers coming up the gut. This year more kicks blocked.
Horrible clock management, etc etc.
Shocking how incompetent Tubs was.
More attractive to a person without ties to either school. s has more ties to Lubbock and Tech than Kliff.
if the Tech job had come up first, or even at the same time, I'm confident enough that s would have come back home to west Texas, his roots, and his alma mater.
But my opinion is a moot point that is moot
Last edited by Blake; 12-17-2012 at 10:00 PM.
sons I wanted him at LSU
let Kliff run the offense, lock Les Miles out of all offensive meetings, and mute his headphones during games = win
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