Here me out on this one. Let's say in your job there is someone who has the same postion as you do but it's ridiculously clear that you are a far superior employee. Now let's say the boss pays the other person a lot more than they pay you. Would you have a problem with that? Even if you are a team player would you deep down inside have a problem with that?
Now consider if Nazr Mohammed was given a contract that paid him alot more than Tim Duncan, though Tim wouldn't grip would he feel underappreciated?
Reason I mention this is because that's the situation the spurs have with Manu and Tony. Manu won't complain, but it may bother him enough deep down inside to keep him from having that little extra UMPH that takes him to even a higher level of play.
What do you think?
I don't think Manu cares. Their contracts aren't that much different and Manu understands that point guard is a position that you usually have to pay a little more.
And Manu is not the type of person to ever hold himself back from going all out on the court -- so don't worry about his UMPH.
Manu makes 7 or 8 avg and Tony makes 11. That's a huge difference. Maybe my numbers are wrong.
I don't claim to know Manu that well.
Manu's contract is $52M and Tony's is $66M. I'm just saying over the course of a contract and when you throw in endorsements, etc. It's not like they are very far apart.
Considering he is the highest paid athlete in his country, I don't think Manu is going to complain about his pay.
TP is the highest paid French athlete and I don't think he is going to complain about his pay.
Tim Duncan IS NOT the highest paid US player and I don't think he is going to complain about his pay.
SO NO, THERE IS NO POTENTIAL PROBLEM.
terrible logic. Tim is the highest paid on the team.
when it comes to pay it's all relative. Some people make 20mm and still feel underpaid, and in some cases they are. Just because someone makes millions doesn't mean they don't feel they deserve more, now for the average person that concept can be hard to understand.
I think Manu is on the verge of landing some big endorsements, and if that happens, the difference in salary won't bother him.
[QUOTE=2centsworth]though Tim wouldn't grip would he feel underappreciated?QUOTE]
I think even Tim Duncan would "grip" about being paid less than a Nazr Mohammed caliber player.
14 million is a lot of money. Maybe the endorsement money changes , if there is some, emotional baggage.
First of all--they DON'T play the exact same position. Second of all, for 82 games this season Parker averaged about 16.6 ppg and Manu 16.1. For the post-season Parker averaged 17.2 and Manu 20.3. Sure Manu had more spectacular games that stood out than Parker and his style of play may give him the upper hand in the "Umph" as you call it, but in the end, their stats are pretty similiar. The intangible things each player brings to the table can't really be compared.
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Manu deserves better and I would do a Terrell Owens on this contract now that he is a superstar.
Robert Horry is about to Cash in that intangible thing.The intangible things each player brings to the table can't really be converted into dollars and cents.
manu is with timewarner, are u??
They are all overpaid so what does it matter.
True that! 52 mil isn't too damn shabby. Heck, I'd settle for half a mill right about now.........
Oh really, they are one of life's top 5 pleasures for most of San Antonio. That is worth a lot of damn money.
Add all the national/international attention they bring to the market, and some would argue they are underpaid.
Manu MUST hold out! The Spurs are low-balling him.
it's not their fault you're not worth much.
JK, I'm not worth much either.
no doubt that Manu has an advantage in Texas where there is a high % of hispanics and ofcourse in this side of the hemisphere where the majority are
latin. Manu is about to XPLODE into the market. If he can carve out a piece of what Kobe has lost in endorsements he can easily be making an extra $10 mil a year.
It ain't that hard a concept. Manu could've bolted last season. He had the upper hand. He could've screwed the teams with selfish demands but he got to a point where he was comfortable. Same with Tim & Tony as well.
This selfishness that you say could potentially be a problem ain't, because these men of character won't allow there to be a potential problem.
It's as simple as that.
By the end of his career, Manu will be so rich anyway, he'll be able to buy Argentina. This is no potential problem.
I would like for you find ONE person other than yourself and Latrell Sprewell who think NBA players are underpaid.
ummmm...given that Tim has a MAX contract...your scenario is moot.
I think Ginobili is paid a fair market value and I doubt you would ever see him complain. He's the type that would most likely honor his contract and be happy that he's a big part of winning les. He's not TRULY a superstar and I doubt he ever will be mainly because of Popovich's system and Manu's unselfish style of play and willingness to fit in the team concept. I hope he never tries to pull a "Kobe" and start thinking he should be taking more shots and all that garbage. Actually I would like to see his shots per game increase to at least 15 a game but not so much that it breaks the flow of the system.
spurs have a lot more class than most organizations so you won't see anything close to that. However, the spurs should promise something extra after Manu's contract is up.
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