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??? I thought she was the first person he murdered. ing media wrong again!
??? I thought she was the first person he murdered. ing media wrong again!
Thanks for posting Darrin. Good, yet scary and disturbing, read.
Dude, they were saying it was his brother in hoboken at first. Imagine sitting at home eating some cheesy poofs watching the news and all of a sudden, every news outlet is calling you a mass murderer.
Edit: Ok I just read this. My wife was telling me about this yesterday.
Yeah, this is actually my life with my 15 year old step-daughter. She hasn't pulled a knife... yet (if she does, I am kicking her out, she can go live with the in-laws), and she isn't that smart (she isn't totally stupid, but isn't as smart as the article describes that kid), but if you ask her to do anything ANYTHING, it is an argument. "Tie your shoes" .... well, I just lost 2 hours of my life. "Please bring your backpack up to your room" ..... that is 1.5 hours, at least. I have often thought that I am going to get killed in my sleep. Not caused by anything specific, but just a general feeling. Luckily I am a light sleeper. Just so yall are aware though, she has three different head doctors so yeah, we are trying to get her help.
Last edited by Drachen; 12-18-2012 at 03:08 PM.
Have a cousin like that. Dude's in his 30's and won't work, take his meds, and sponges off my grandma. Would like to beat the crap out of him tbh.
It's really hard to say what to do with people like this. I mean, in less advanced times, a potential psychopath would probably have just weeded himself out, or gone on to conquer a few empires. Now though? What can we really do?
Well for starters, we can be responsible gun owners and keep weapons out of their hands. Everyone is fixated on the fact that the guns were legal and registered to his mother (talking about Lanza's mom here). But what about her personal responsibility? Don't get me wrong, I have great sympathy for those who deal with family members with mental illness, but the fact remains that she KNEW her son was mentally ill and she chose to keep those weapons in her home and apparently not very well secured. Why is it up to society to worry about her kid when she didn't do everything in her own power to protect him and others?
Last edited by mrsmaalox; 12-18-2012 at 05:01 PM. Reason: not talking about blogger lady
1. Don't have kids.
2. If they're psychotic like this, ing lock them up. Coddling them with shrinks and medication doesn't do .
Also, since when is being an angry teenager a mental illness?
A big common denominator seems to be a dad who bailed and a mom who's totally clueless (and yes, I'd say a mom who leaves knives within reach of her mentally ill kid and thinks the school social worker is someone to go to for advice is clueless). There's only so much society can do about kids having major problems with parents who won't deal with it.
How many mental health professionals has this woman taken her son to? Does she really think the social worker at a school who probably makes 25-30k a year is the person to go to for advice on a kid who's got a complicated cognitive disorder people with PHDs struggle to understand? There are countless things in that article that demonstrate horrible parenting (like having a confrontation with your kid over the in color of his pants).
lol Woo Bum-Kon
lol freelance author, musician and classicist single parent with 4 ing kids
So... don't teach the kid that following rules is a necessary thing?
My son forced me to go out and get a real job
lol I'd wanna kill myself and my mom is she was some ugly ty hipster too
No, have some sense on when to pick your battles. Parenting 101.
What a stupid . Instead of realizing that she's a ty parent for raising a kid who obviously needs discipline without a dad - she refuses to accept responsibility by saying her son is
That's not really fair. It's easy to blame every kids' missteps on lack of discipline, but mental illness really does exist and affects all ages. But when your kid is diagnosed by professionals as having a mental illness, you don't just throw up your hands and surrender. Your greatest responsibility begins when your kid is born and only increases as they grow and you keep them safe and protect others from them if necessary.What a stupid . Instead of realizing that she's a ty parent for raising a kid who obviously needs discipline without a dad - she refuses to accept responsibility by saying her son is
I'd question which professionals she's taken him to -- which was DOK's point. But that's besides the point - why is being an angry teenager a mental illness? The kid doesn't have downs-syndrome. He can function and does function fine -- for most of the time according to the mom. He has violent outbursts. That's not mental illness, that's being a 13 year old boy.
And even assuming that the kid is mentally ill, the mom's responsibility is to take care of the kid. That might mean giving him up for foster care if her gig playing the guitar and writing a blog and caring for three other kids doesn't work out.
She's making excuses for herself. Which is pure, unbridled bull .
I'll respond to this when I am back at a keyboard. I don't feel like doing it on my cell phone (I am coincidentally at a Dr. appt for my step daughter).
I have a nephew that had a child and from day one my wife and I knew there was "something wrong" with him. he was a "happy baby" but he clearly wasn't developing normally. By the time he was a year old it was obvious something was really wrong. There was clearly a mental issue that was being ignored. My parents were basically supporting the kid and his new family. I finally couldn't stand it and said something to my parents and basically demanded that we all broach the subject with the parents...by then he was 18 months old and still crawling and not talking...The parents (druggies too) were just ignoring it...they actually admitted they realized he was a little "slow' but didn't want to get him help (tons of free help available...we even found the programs for them) because "then he wouldn't be able to get in the military when he grew up". WTF???? FINALLY I forced my parents to threaten to cut them off if they didn't get the boy help...with therapy, counseling etc. he has been able to somewhat mainstream but was still wearing diapers at 5 years old and at ten probably has the mental capacity of a 5 or 6 year old. The parents would have totally ignored the problem if we hadn't forced the issue.
For those blaming the behavior on bad parenting skills, how do you explain one or more good kids that are siblings to the bad one?
Wow...
My younger daughter was still crawling past the point she should be walking. Had her checked out, and turned she had a thyroid imbalance. This was simple compared to other issues. I never understood how it was missed. She was being seen regularly for a heart murmur what later went away after she was getting the levothyroxine, which is cheap. Everything started becoming normal with her, and her heart murmur went away too. The small hole in her heart actually closed itself. I don't think these were related, but maybe they were. So many years ago, hard to remember the details.
I agree that she is just making excuses for herself, I just disagree that the kid is only a discipline problem and may not be mentally ill.
Unfortunately stupid parents cop out on their kids all the time. It's not easy being a parent and doing it alone seems to make some feel like they are some kind of martyr and that all their "sacrifices" providing food and shelter make them deserving of putting themselves and their own search for happiness before their kids' psychological needs. Once you make a kid, sane or not, you are stuck and nothing else should matter until you are sure they are well on their way to becoming productive citizens or at least until you are sure society is safe from them.
This is ing stupid on several levels. Playing armchair psychiatrist without so much as interviewing the subject or his parent is fun I guess. Making up a salary to denigrate her for talking to a trained professional. Not realizing that you are supporting her thesis of mental health treatment deficiency by doing so.
Trying to turn telling your kid reasonably that he is not meeting dress code into 'like having a confrontation with your kid over the in color of his pants.' Trying to call what that kid has 'a cognitive disorder' is ing ignorant. Go look up up what the requirements for that are in the DSM. As is this alluding to the idea that if a man was there the disorder would have been prevented.
This just sounds like the typical machismo bull that you see in San Antonio more than just about anywhere else in the country.
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