Seriously, how ing re ed can one swath of the public be.
There's absolutely zero principled reason for going over the cliff. " it," which a lot of them seem to be saying doesn't cut it. I'm pretty fiscally conversative and will get hit hardest by tax hikes, but do these inbred ing assholes not realize they're pointing the pistol at their head and saying the bullet won't really hurt? Boutons, where you at homeboy?
What's wrong with a "No Tax Deal?"
You cannot tax yourself out of a recession.
Ladies and gentleman, I give you exhibit A.
And that cheerleader is kinda busted too ...
Tea Party IS dumb. More people's taxes go up if we go over the cliff than if they do a deal. I think the Fiscal Cliff will end up being the KT boundary of Tea Party history.
I think just like last year, they will pass a bill that will not increase the tax rates, after the beginning of the year. The democrats will cave. If they don't, at least it's equal suffrage and not class warfare.
They won't have to pass a bill that will not increase tax rates after the beginning of next year, because tax rates will go up automatically. The Republicans will get blamed for raising taxes on everyone. Andat "equal suffrage"... first off, you mean suffering, and second of all, it's not going to be equal.
For everyone that complains about people who pay no taxes, I have a simple question... would you rather make 30K a year and not pay taxes, or make $1M and pay taxes?
I'd rather be a welfare citizen. Living in the projects and relying on food stamps is such a fun lifestyle it makes me wonder why the people who about welfare recipients never quit their job and become one.
At the beginning of this year is when they reauthorized the 4.2% on SS insurance. I'm not certain, but I believe the tax rates would have gone back to 15/28/31/36/39.6% as well until,the legislation passed in mid January.They won't have to pass a bill that will not increase tax rates after the beginning of next year, because tax rates will go up automatically. The Republicans will get blamed for raising taxes on everyone. And
Yes, the media will blame the republicans, like always. However, it's the democrats not agreeing to any specific spending cuts, and spending suts is what we need.
Tell me. Is the income tax revenue still about 18% of GNP? This is a historical trend, averaging 18.3% Government need to get spending down below 18.3%, else we are ed any way.
That is a question that should never be considered. Even if it's a very small amount, everyone should have skin in the game.
Why? If I'm paying $1000 in taxes instead of 0, do you really think I'll favor Republican policies if the government is still giving me food stamps/welfare/etc etc.
The lying, fraudulent Kock-sucking tea baggers just doin what their financiers in the 1% want them to do.
Fair tax?
lol, no kidding. we're not in a recession, but I guess we probably will be if the Tea Party idiots have their way.
The tax increase the Dems want would fund the fed govt for eight days. Then what? I haven't heard the Senate come up with anything or the President on how much spending he'll cut (besides his fav to cut-defense). 4:1 on spending cuts to tax increases, and the Repubs will def agree.
That's not what I said, is it?
Right now, we have almost half the population putting people in office that will redistribute other people's money to them. If they have skin in the game, then maybe they will start thinking about if their taxes will go up or not, but who they vote for.
The only thing I don't like about the Fair tax is the prebate. I can accept that as a compromise to change to it though.
Maybe not technocally, but we are still in the bottom of the dip. We haven't crawled out of it yet because we have fewer people pulling the cart than it takes to pull everyone out that is in it.
I'm just wondering how much skin you think would get them to think twice about raising taxes. Also, IIRC, some of that half include retired folks. I don't think taxing them extra will do much, except maybe get them to work past retirement age.
Retirement income is already taxed differently.
And the dreaded fiscal cliff cuts, which even Republicans think are too drastic, will fund the Government for about 11.5 days. Of course, you don't hear people talking about that... because putting things in terms of days of Government funding is really ing stupid and no actual professional would ever do it.
He won the election. He shouldn't have to agree to 4:1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases.
It's not stupid. Thinking business as usual when spending more than they bring in is stupid. Or that there is no way to not get to that is stupid as well.
Nor should Barry be forced by the Repugs to list ALL the cuts, while the bad-faith, Repug chicken s refuse to list any cuts.
"spending more than they bring in is stupid"
The Repug/VRWC created the deficit, which was quite small when dubya took office, with their tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, with 2 unfunded, botched, bogus wars, unfunded Medicare Part D and Medicare Advantage, so the Repugs/VRWC can fix the deficit.
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