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    He looks like a young Drob(less coordinated and strong, but same type of athleticism)..

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    I've just watched the first half of the France vs. Turkey game but our guy looks pretty good. He's no doubt the best defender on the court. He can really move and already has a good concept of help defense than Nazr Mohammed . He doesn't get the ball too much on offense, with most of the reason being that the French guards suck. They dribble the ball the whole clock and then launch horrible shots.

    Petro is also in that game and he looks pretty good. He's huge (legit 7'1) and seems pretty very mobil. But you can see that Mahinmi is a much better defender and really does a lot of small things on the court. He boxes out in every play and really hustles. Petro plays like he knows he's a star and doesn't really do much away from the ball.

    The only downside with Mahinmi is he looks kinda short ... but that could just be because Petro is so big. Hopefully Mahinmi is at least 6-foot-9.

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    One funny thing is that Mahinmi does the jump ball even though Petro is so much taller. The Turkey guy doesn't even attempt to jump

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    Damn, it won't work for me.

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    I think our boy looks about 6'9, 6'10 ish...Petro is supposedly 7 feet tall.

    I tell you one thing...that big Turk is a beast...he pretty much erased both of the French Bigmen...he was also part of the reason they couldn't get the ball...he was throwing both of them around like ragdolls...

    If Petro goes 7' 260 lbs that Turk has gotta be pushing 300....he's like a big farm boy or something...no game but he can block out the sun...

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    BTW....our guy has a bigger role in the second half...Petro doesn't do squat in the second half because he's in foul trouble.

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    The thing is...both Petro and Ian are probably still growing...18 years old? I think there is a very good chance they'll both gain a couple of inches, at least an inch...Ian looked very tall at the draft.

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    Damn, it won't work for me.

    You need windows media player...there is no reason it shouldn't work for you.

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    I just noticed that video is a year old or so...he was 17 in that game.

    Edit...the stat sheet from that tournament has him listed at 205cm that converts to 6'7...

    Maybe he's grown 3 inches in a year and is still growing
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    I had just noticed the date on that also. He sure looked all of 6'10" when he was up on the stage with Stern. I wish I had that taped so I could compare him to some of the others.

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    the stat sheet from that tournament has him listed at 205cm that converts to 6'7...
    Actually that converts to ~6'8 3/4.

    JUUOT says that the latest figures have him at 206cm, which is a tad over 6'9.

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    he definately has skillz, in a few years it seems he will be good player for the spurs.

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    Man what a choke job by France. They surrendered that second half lead without a fight (no pun intended). I could almost see them waving the white flag

    Mahinmi played well throughout. He was the only player trying to win that game. His defense is freakin' far advanced for being a 17-year-old who had just started to play basketball. He can pick up from beyond the three-point line without any problems. He's a very good rebounder and a willing shotblocker.

    If I was a scout and just saw that game, I'd be shocked that Petro was picked before Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a lot more mobile than Petro and can jump a lot higher. Again, the only question I have (and the only advantage Petro has) is height. If Mahinmi is 6-foot-9 without shoes, then the Spurs have found themselves a player. Even if he's not, he has really long arms and might be able to make up for it.

    He's not as skinny as he looked in pictures. He's skinny, but it'll be easy for him to gain weight. If he can get to 240, he'll be fine in the NBA. Right now he looks to be around 220.

    It's hard to compare him to anybody in the NBA. What struck me in that game was how hard he tries. Petro and the rest of his team was going through the motions. He was involved in every play. If I had to compare him, he's plays like a Stromile Swift if Swift played all out every play.

    Offensively, I don't see that he has any game ... but he never got the ball so it's hard to tell. His free throw form is smooth. He dunks the ball around the basket. It seems like he can draw fouls already.

    After seeing that one game (which was France's most important game of the tournament ... if they would have won they would have gone to the championship game), I say the Spurs made a good pick. I'm not going to say it's a lock that he'll be a solid NBA player, but he has the tools. He can run, jump, move quickly and has a very good motor. If he gets bigger and stronger and continues to get better, he could be an NBA player down the road.

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    Actually that converts to ~6'8 3/4.
    That's even better...I was starting to think our next bigman was going to be the size of Bruce Bowen...


    JUUOT says that the latest figures have him at 206cm, which is a tad over 6'9.
    Cool...I guess it's fair to round that up to 6'10...at least it's not adding 3 inches to his height like they did with Sato.

    He might still be growing...maybe that's a secret or something...that he is having a growth spurt...if he grows into his arms he's going to be about 7'3.

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    Man what a choke job by France. They surrendered that second half lead without a fight (no pun intended). I could almost see them waving the white flag

    Mahinmi played well throughout. He was the only player trying to win that game. His defense is freakin' far advanced for being a 17-year-old who had just started to play basketball. He can pick up from beyond the three-point line without any problems. He's a very good rebounder and a willing shotblocker.

    If I was a scout and just saw that game, I'd be shocked that Petro was picked before Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a lot more mobile than Petro and can jump a lot higher. Again, the only question I have (and the only advantage Petro has) is height. If Mahinmi is 6-foot-9 without shoes, then the Spurs have found themselves a player. Even if he's not, he has really long arms and might be able to make up for it.

    He's not as skinny as he looked in pictures. He's skinny, but it'll be easy for him to gain weight. If he can get to 240, he'll be fine in the NBA. Right now he looks to be around 220.

    It's hard to compare him to anybody in the NBA. What struck me in that game was how hard he tries. Petro and the rest of his team was going through the motions. He was involved in every play.

    Offensively, I don't see that he has any game ... but he never got the ball so it's hard to tell. His free throw form is smooth. He dunks the ball around the basket. It seems like he can draw fouls already.

    After seeing that one game (which was France's most important game of the tournament ... if they would have won they would have gone to the championship game), I say the Spurs made a good pick. I'm not going to say it's a lock that he'll be a solid NBA player, but he has the tools. He can run, jump, move quickly and has a very good motor. If he gets bigger and stronger and continues to get better, he could be an NBA player down the road.


    LOL that was a choke of epic proportions wasn't it?

    I think the major culprits were #6...he tore it up in the first half but choked butt in the second...and Petro...

    The big Turk outplayed him and got him into foul trouble...Petro actually looked like the 3rd best bigman in that game.

    Edit: and supposedly he weighs 230 right now...that puts him at about the size of Horry...he didn't look as big as Horry though when he was drafted...

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    That Turkey team wasn't too impressive. Their center was a huge fat guy with minimal skill. Their guard Cenk Anyol was drafted by the Hawks as the 59th pick in the draft. He didn't look like a point guard to me, but he has a very good looking jumper and plays very composed. He could be something in a couple years.

    After the draft, RC Buford said that Anyol was a steal. The odd thing is the Hawks had that pick from the Spurs in the Viktor Sanikidze draft. I wonder if the Spurs are higher on Sanikidze or Anyol. Sanikidze hasn't exactly done much in Europe, even though he's a year older than Mahinmi.

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    Where was that turkish SF that the Spurs were interested in? Shouldn't he have been in that game too if he's just now 18?

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    Here are the leading scorers from that tournament:

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     Name Team G Points Avg 
    1. Kurbanov, N.  RUS 8 169 21.1 
    2. Ivanov, D.  BUL 7 143 20.4 
    3. Suarez, C.  ESP 8 161 20.1 
    4. Slaveykov, S.  BUL 7 138 19.7 
    5. Antelo, J.  ESP 8 154 19.3 
    6. Rodriguez, S.  ESP 8 152 19.0 
    7. Sakota, N.  GRE 8 149 18.6 
    8. Nir, J.  ISR 8 148 18.5 
    9. Shabalkin, N.  RUS 8 148 18.5 
    10. Milosevits, I.  GRE 7 126 18.0 
    11. Pocius, M.  LTU 7 126 18.0 
    12. Markoishvili, M.  GEO 7 125 17.9 
    13. Sanikidze, V.  GEO 5 88 17.6 
    14. Andriuskevicius, M.  LTU 7 118 16.9 
    15. Ivanov, K.  BUL 7 116 16.6 
    16. Belinelli, M.  ITA 8 131 16.4 
    17. Aleksandrov, N.  SCG 8 128 16.0 
    18. Jeromanovs, E.  LAT 7 110 15.7 
    19. Demirel, H.  TUR 8 124 15.5 
    20. Aleksandrovas, A.  LTU 7 108 15.4 
    21. Voronov, E.  RUS 7 108 15.4 
    22. Berkowitz, N.  ISR 8 115 14.4 
    23. Petro, J.  FRA 8 110 13.8 
    24. Zavoruev, V.  RUS 8 110 13.8 
    25. Strupovics, O.  LAT 7 94 13.4
    San played pretty well in that tourney....

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    Loved how quickly he goes up with the ball after getting offensive rebounds. You can definately see the athleticism talked about by the Spurs FO. Looked like he set some good screens, boxed out, and was very active on the defensive end. The guy has some long arms, I think I saw him scratch his knee caps whils standing up straight.

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    Where was that turkish SF that the Spurs were interested in? Shouldn't he have been in that game too if he's just now 18?
    I think he was injured. But Ersan Ilysova (the guy you are talking about) is going to play with Turkey this year with Cenk Akyol. They are one of the favorites going into the U18 Tournament this year. It looks like its going to be from July 15-24.

    France hasn't announced their roster, but Mahinmi should be on that team. Petro turned 19, so I assume he can't be on the team. Hopefully France has cultivated better guards than they had last season.

    Viktor Sanikidze played in this same tournament but I don't see any game tape of him on that site. He was one of the leading scorers and rebounders in the tournament. He also turned 19 so he's not playing this year.

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    Hmmm ... I just found an article saying that Mahinmi will play in the U20 tournament. So either you have to be 17 or under to play in the U18 tournament or he's actually 19-years-old. I've seen a couple places that have listed his DOB as 1-5-86, which would make him 19. And the local news said he was 19.

    Not sure. Here's the article. Maybe some European poster can tell us what the age restrictions are for the U18 tournament and find Mahinmi's real DOB.

    France Coach Commeres Has Low Expectations

    France coach Jacques Commeres believes inexperience and numerous distractions give his side very little chance of winning a medal at the U20 European Championship for Men in Moscow next month.

    The French lost three consecutive matches to Russia (83-68), Greece (74-64) and the Czech Republic (64-63) in a preparation tournament that took place on the Greek island of Syros over the weekend, and Commeres told PA International: "The qualification to the second stage of the Euro will be very tough to get.

    "We have had a very short preparation and it's been difficult for us to build up on a game.

    "We've shown good periods of play but failed to be consistent enough throughout any of our games."

    Commeres believes his players simply have not logged enough minutes in international compe ions to be able to compete with Europe's best squads next week.

    "We don't have much experience," he added, "what we lack is the experience of international basketball.

    "My players have athletic and technical qualities but they need that little extra thing to be able to win.

    "We must defend better and be more patient offensively.

    "The good thing about the tournament in Greece is that it gave us that sort of experience as my guys had to be confronted to very tough matches in a difficult context."

    On top of having a short time to prepare his men, Commeres has recently had to deal with injuries and drafts of some players in the NBA.

    In Greece, he was without Yannick Bokolo, who injured his shoulder against Germany in Vittel.

    The youngster will be back at the weekend for their last preparation event in Lyon where they will take on Italy in two contests.

    However, Commeres will have to do without Chalon's Mickael Mokongo, who needs surgery on his knee and will miss out on the Euro.

    Johan Petro of Pau Orthez and Ian Mahinmi of Le Havre, meanwhile, have missed most of the preparation while getting ready for the NBA Draft.

    Both were taken late in the first round, Petro by Seattle, and Mahinmi by San Antonio.

    Commeres hopes they will be back with the national side before the start of next week.


    "We are in a waiting situation at the moment," added Commeres.

    "But with all that, it's difficult to have a team that is used to play together."

    France will start their Euro championships on July 8 against Slovenia before taking on Russia on the ninth and Croatia the following day.

    "I fear all three teams," Commeres said.

    "Qualification to the next round will be very difficult.

    "But if we manage to do it, then it will have probably been after very tough battles.

    "At the Euro, the level of play is going to be extremely high.

    "The other teams are at the level of the professional outfits.

    "In the current state of affairs with our team, I think the focus will be on its coherence and its organisation rather than on the elaboration of any strategic plan to progress to the next stage.

    "The good thing about the Euro is that it will allow my players to gain that international experience they are missing so much and get as close as possible to what real basketball is."

    Before travelling to Russia, France will play two matches against Italy in Lyon on Saturday and Sunday.

    "We will try to play more as a team," Commeres added.

    "The fact that there were not so many decisive crosses in our recent matches show that the players are not used to playing with each other.

    "This is what we are going to try to improve."

    Commeres will then announce his final team ahead of the Euro on Monday.

    "Against Italy this weekend, the team will be less open and the aim will be to decide on the right combinations ahead of the Euro," he said.

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    Doesn't U18 mean under 18? So 17 is the max age you can be and still play in it?

    Makes sense...

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    Maybe he is soo good they moved him up a classification.

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    I read something at the FIBA Europe site that may have some meaning here...It says the U20 eligible players don't always play in that tourney becasue of NBA or National Team commitments...maybe you can play in a higher age bracket as a younger player if they let you....

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    Doesn't U18 mean under 18? So 17 is the max age you can be and still play in it?

    Makes sense...
    That's what I thought but Petro played in the U18 tournament last year and he was born in January of 1986 ... so he was already 18 this time last year.

    I don't get it

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