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Didn't know he just turned 26. Does he still have time to get significantly better?
In 20 minutes he went 6-7 for 13 points and 6 rebounds. So far this season in 35 games he's averaged 16 minutes per game and is getting around 5 points andv4 rebounds per contest.
Didn't know he just turned 26. Does he still have time to get significantly better?
significantly better no but hes a uva backup big
I remember him playing pretty good in the playoffs for Dallas
i remember him playin for the spurs.
I remember him fouling. A lot.
Mahinmi has been pretty horrible this season, tbh. He's shooting 42% from the field and has a PER of 11. He's also still a fouling machine and his turnovers are at a career high.
I think he can be an average backup center. Right now, though, he's pretty darn bad.
Blind pig, acorn, etc. etc.
As you were.
mahinmi is outproducing that scrub on the spurs bench who loves circus shots
pacers are the worst offensive team in the league imo
theyre like 28th i think but considering all the talent compared to a team like the wizards theyre pretty bad
if he just had to dunk or lay it in and focus on defense he could be a serviceable backup
his midrange shot is improved
u suck as a supposedly "bolded" poster.... but this is true. and it wont be admitted here. tragic.
Blair's stats this season are also 5 points and 4 rebounds per game. In less minutes and higher fg%.
The fact is Ian proved himself the only time it really matters: the playoffs - in particular the finals. He stepped up in big moments and that's all you need to know.
He had a rough start of the season (and a terrible November), but even before tonight Pacers fans were by and large happy with Ian as their back up 5. He's shot terribly and had severe problems catching passes, but the important thing is that he's been getting better and better as the season has progressed. He no doubt had some adjustment issues after spending his whole career in Texas with a French teammate and zero guaranteed role or minutes, getting yanked around regardless of how he performed. This was the first time in his career where he had a place in a rotation and didn't have to look over his shoulder.
Pacer fans have been happy with his defense. And if you look at his stats, his fouls per 36 are at a career low while his blocks per 36 is higher than any year save his rookie year.
he doesnt space the floor!
So muchin four sentences. By your measure, the Spurs' starting center is an average backup center.
?So much
I read those two sentences and the emoticon thrice and have no idea where you're going with that, tbh.
Your high-water mark for Mahinmi is apparently Tiago Splitter.
In other words: we get it. You don't like Mahinmi, no matter what he does.
Key word: Tonight. He hasn't looked very good all season long tbh...
Since when do I not like Mahinmi? I was vocal in my support of Pop giving him a chance when he was here. I said it was dumb that the Spurs spent so much time and money on him yet never gave him even one fair opportunity to show what he could do. I pointed out the few times Mahinmi outplayed Splitter the few times they matched up. I did say the Pacers overpaid him in the summer -- and $16M over four years does look excessive for what they're getting.
And "no matter what he does" seems to indicate you think he's doing well. I can't agree with that. A bigman who is shooting 42% with an 11 PER while posting his highest turnover rate and a high foul rate is a below average backup center. It could be different if he were playing awesome defense ... but he's not.
Mahinmi, IMO, was worth around $5M over two years in the open market -- in other words, Aaron Gray type money. $16M was a massive overpayment and simply a case of poor scouting. He's pretty good but he's still raw and there's an upward climb for him to become an average backup center.
To compare, Robin Lopez got less than a third of what Mahinmi got in guaranteed money and is blowing him out of the water -- 56% shooting, 21 PER, less turnovers, less fouls, more blocks, etc.
To be fair to Mahinmi, it's not his fault that the Pacers were dumb. And it was far from the Pacers only dumb move. They also gave Gerald Green $10.5M after he had a few good 10-day contract stints on tanking teams. Swapping out Darren Collison for DJ Augustin has also basically been a bust. Hibbert and Hill are probably both overpaid, etc.
Anyways, tl;dr: I don't dislike Mahinmi. Pacers gave him too much money. He's been pretty bad so far but I think he can be an average backup center one day. Splitter is a much better player so I don't even know how to respond to that non sequitur, tbh.
It must be the new free agent gleam. His on/off stats are shockingly bad.
http://www.82games.com/1213/12IND14.HTM
He makes their offense 12.3 points worse per 100 possessions and makes their defense 4.1 points worse per 100 possessions ... for a grand total of 16.4 points worse per 100 possessions
It must be the new free agent gleam. His on/off stats are shockingly bad.
http://www.82games.com/1213/12IND14.HTM
He makes their offense 12.3 points worse per 100 possessions and makes their defense 4.1 points worse per 100 possessions ... for a grand total of 16.4 points worse per 100 possessions
timvp laying the smackdown in this thread
GNSF god doing GNSF gods do, to be honest.
outside of that.... i still wish we had current Mahinmi, rather than current Blair.
Not at all. He had a truly awful November which had a lot of Pacer fans on the verge of rioting because he was an unnecessary trade for Collison who had an incredible November while Mahinmi could have just been signed outright.It must be the new free agent gleam. His on/off stats are shockingly bad.
http://www.82games.com/1213/12IND14.HTM
He makes their offense 12.3 points worse per 100 possessions and makes their defense 4.1 points worse per 100 possessions ... for a grand total of 16.4 points worse per 100 possessions
And your stats are fool's gold, just look at the line-ups Mahinmi plays in because Vogel does his rotation in shifts. The top 3 5-man units in minutes featuring Mahinmi:
Most minutes: Augustin, Young, Green, Hansborough, Ian
2nd most: Augustin, George, Green, Hansborough, Ian
3rd most: Augustin, Stephenson, Green, Hansborough, Ian
Those are ALL crappy bench guys save George who also had a bad start. , Sam Young has been cut! And he was in the number one minute unit! And Augustin had been such trash that he lost his spot to Lil' Ben Hansborough until he got hurt. Of course Ian's numbers are going to be trash playing with those guys.
All I can tell you is that before tonight on Pacer forums the vast majority were thrilled to have him over Lou Admundson who was their back-up 5 last year. Numerous times this year in game and post game threads there has been praise for Ian and comments about how if it was Admundson instead those games would have been lost. His defense has been praised as keeping a continuity from Hibbert as opposed to last year.
Has he been great? No. His shooting is bizarrely poor (but up from November). He's turning the ball over more. But he is a legit back up big right now, not in the potential future.
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