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Aussieoop, nice!
Stack's play is beginning to be a concern. I strongly dislike, Gary Neal.
Tony Parker B+
Scoring was great. D was fine. Passing was impressive at times. Orchestration of O shaky. Too loose with ball.
Manu Ginobili A-
Quality passes but also had miscues. Efficient scoring-wise. Strong on the boards. Hamstring got tight at the end.
Kawhi Leonard A
Came out blazing from the field. No hesitation on jumpers. Played well off the dribble. Active on defense.
Danny Green B
Shot looked smooth and made plays in transition on D. However, passing was horrific and individual D iffy.
Tiago Splitter B-
Rebounding could’ve been better. Finishing relatively spotty. Had some great moments but consistency lacking.
Boris Diaw B
D was strong; rebounding wasn’t. Aggression was acceptable but floated at times. Passing a plus.
Stephen Jackson D
Couldn’t buy a bucket. Turnovers galore. Up and down -- but mostly down -- play continues.
Aron Baynes A-
Dove straight into the action. Strong on the glass. Set solid screens. D needs polishing. Impressive debut.
Nando De Colo B-
Shot was off. Passed it well but turnovers still a problem. Great hustle to loose balls.
Gary Neal D
Authored a couple more misses. Did little else in 12 minutes.
Patrick Mills Inc.
Made garbage time exciting with his activity. Nice pass to Baynes on the move for an Aussieoop.
Pop B
Spread minutes well. Rotation was weird but fine. Showed confidence in Baynes and gave him a good run.
Aussieoop, nice!
Stack's play is beginning to be a concern. I strongly dislike, Gary Neal.
Gary Neal got virtually no minutes today - no worries really. If we need quick offense he's good but what other use does he have?
I think i blinked and missed Jack's "up" during the game tbh
Baynes is a steal, hopefully will be able to produce constantly.
Alright Timvp, serious question - What do we do with Sjax? He has looked like crap lately, and doesn't appear to be playing any better at all.
The other day he said he would like more minutes, but that you have to sacrifice for the team. He was talking about DeJuan Blair's situation, but all I could think was, man, you aren't even playing well enough to get the minutes you're getting now, let alone more minutes.
He's really not playing that well. I am a huge Sjax fan, but his numbers are really bad, his salary is high, so not sure what the Spurs should do. I'm worried he is going to ask for some crazy amount of money in the off season. I just don't know what he is thinking sometimes.
Last edited by Ice009; 01-30-2013 at 11:39 PM.
That's about it, tbh. If the Spurs need some scoring energy off the bench then that's all he's really good for...
Jack has looked like crap lately, but I think he's just too valuable to the team taking up minutes backing up Kawhi and playing spot minutes at the 4 spot. It's not like the Spurs need him to put up 12-15 points a game. They just need for him to play solid D, rebound, set good screens, and spot up and hit a 3 every now and then. I think his BBall IQ is too valuable. You can tell he's a smart player on some of the plays he pulls off with Tiago in the pick and rolls. He always looks for the big off those screens....
Music to my ears.
really tho....
21 turnovers to one of the worst teams in the league..
disgusting.
i hope manu is ok !
His shot has been broke though, and when he has the ball he's shooting 90% of the time; that's at bad combination.
you keep playing him. Hes here for april and may not December and January.
Bingo. We all saw what he did when the Spurs backs were up against the wall in hostile territory last year at OKC in Game 6. He was one of the only guys who played his ass off and seemed to give a ...
I don't see a realistic Jack trade that the Spurs pull the trigger on, nor should they. As EricB said, Jack's here for the playoffs.
never seen a player get more excuses then the TOSB Jackson
Baynes was pretty much what was advertised
he looked like he had a good motor on the boards
but his D wasnt too good, he looked lost and was a bit slow on rotations but it was his first nba game so obviously get better
offensively he didnt do much of anything but get garbage putbacks and dunks
had a few bad plays that should also be corrected once he gets more playing time if he does
he should be able to contribute 5-10 mins at the least for the team as the backup C
Good points on Jack. Here's to the post season.
Neal justs needs to be ready to play good in the playoffs.TP can't do it all. Baynes needs to play against better compe ion to get better. He showed promise tonight.
what was the "excuse" given?
Some Spurs fans just never learn.
I understand that better than anyone. I edited my post and added more to it. Very strange to hear you say that, because all the years I wanted him back, you bagged the out of him. His numbers right now are worse than when you guys were calling him an inefficient chucker.
It's really the off season that has me more worried. I just have no idea what kind of money he will ask for and what he thinks he is worth. If he doesn't want to sign a reasonable contract and leaves, does that give the Spurs much cap room to play with, or not really? Anyone know?
And you can pretty much throw away Baynes' performance tonight as it was against the Bobcats.
Aron needs to do this against better teams for it to mean something. Great effort though tonight Aron! It's still an NBA debut, and a good one at that. Good physicality. That's what I want more of on this team. PHYSICALITY.
Last edited by Ice009; 01-30-2013 at 11:53 PM.
Jackson having by far the worst stats on the team
cant hit a shot and cant guard perimeter players
having his worst percentages in pretty much every category in his entire career
with the addition of baynes we dont need a smallball 4 when Kawhi is a far superior option who Jack also takes minutes away from Leonard
has the lowest last 10 averages in timvps player grades
but but but hit some shots in the playoffs maybe
Nice set of grades. i think you set a fairly low bar for the newby.
I think Pop just has to keep remaining patient. Jack's pinkie is still bandaged, so I'm sure that's not helping matters. The docs said it was going to still be broken for ~3 weeks after his return. But, yeah, treat him like Horry. Give him enough minutes to keep him in shape and then hope he's playing well come playoff time.
If a trade comes along that you need to include his contract, that's fine. But otherwise, Pop has to keep playing him and hope for the best.
The other reason to keep playing him is to figure out if he has anything at all left in the tank. If he looks done come March, then maybe the Spurs bring in a free agent small forward for depth. Benching Jack now makes little sense; it just muddles the situation even further.
People used to get pissed off at Robert Horry for half assing it in the regular season, but you could count on the guy to show up when it mattered. Jack seems the same in many respects. not claiming he is Horry, but there are similarities.
edit: timvp beat me with the Horry ref. by seconds
I meant ups and downs games-wise in the last couple weeks. As recently as last game Jack did pretty darn well.
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