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How can it be the end of such policies when Obama is a far bigger warmonger?
McCain is an asshat, can you believe this idiot was a few million votes from being President?
"Tell me I was right on Iraq!"
MORE...Essentially, that's what Sen. McCain said during most of his time in today's confirmation hearing for Chuck Hagel. And that sums up why the die had been cast on the Hagel nomination, before we even got to these hearings today, which I am currently at. This vote, I believed (and now believe more than ever) is a referendum on neocon policy, not on Chuck Hagel.
Chuck Hagel, one of the first Republicans to stand up to President Bush on Iraq. Chuck Hagel who opposed the surge in Iraq, and in Afghanistan, and is against preemptive wars as a first option. Chuck Hagel being confirmed would put a nail in the coffin of neocon military policy. And that drives senators on the right insane.
That's why instead of looking ahead to issues we urgently face, in terms of a readied military that can meet commitments, McCain tried to bully Senator Hagel into saying McCain was right on the war in Iraq, and on the surge there. Of course, McCain wasn't right on the war, and wasn't right on the surge. Iraq stabilized not because of our increased military presence, but because of the Sunni awakening. In short, Iraq stabilized when Iraqis finally wanted that. But that wasn't going to keep McCain from blowing up at Chuck Hagel for daring to challenge him and other neocons.
The end of neocon rule is why Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma spent his question time presenting a blog from ultra-conservative blogger Jennifer Rubin, a favorite of the neocon cabal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-so...b_2591483.html
The news media wanted another Hillary-banging-on-the-table moment, and instead they got a pretty rational guy responding to absolute crazies and McCarthyites in a rational way. Obama should be proud of him, he went about it the exactly right way, and that frustrated the out of the Repubs (and the media).
How can it be the end of such policies when Obama is a far bigger warmonger?
Repugs still lying that Petraeus's surge won the Iraq war.
It wasn't Petraeus' surge, and Iraq ain't won.
Petraeus's mightiest skill was public relations and propaganda, not general-ling. Couldn't keep his in his pants.
It's pretty damn clear that Hagel's voting machine company rigged his election.
"If You Want To Win An Election, Just Control The Voting Machines"
Back when Hagel first ran there for the U.S. Senate in 1996, his company's computer-controlled voting machines showed he'd won stunning upsets in both the primaries and the general election. The Washington Post (1/13/1997) said Hagel's "Senate victory against an in bent Democratic governor was the major Republican upset in the November election." According to Bev Harris ofwww.blackboxvoting.org, Hagel won virtually every demographic group, including many largely Black communities that had never before voted Republican. Hagel was the first Republican in 24 years to win a Senate seat in Nebraska.
Six years later Hagel ran again, this time against Democrat Charlie Matulka in 2002, and won in a landslide. As his hagel.senate.gov website says, Hagel "was re-elected to his second term in the United States Senate on November 5, 2002 with 83% of the vote. That represents the biggest political victory in the history of Nebraska."
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm
While Diebold has received the most attention, it actually isn't the biggest maker of computerized election machines. That honor goes to Omaha-based ES&S, and its Republican roots may be even stronger than Diebold's.
The firm, which is privately held, began as a company called Data Mark, which was founded in the early 1980s by Bob and Todd Urosevich. In 1984, brothers William and Robert Ahmanson bought a 68 percent stake in Data Mark, and changed the company's name to American Information Services (AIS). Then, in 1987, McCarthy & Co, an Omaha investment group, acquired a minority share in AIS.
In 1992, investment banker Chuck Hagel, president of McCarthy & Co, became chairman of AIS.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...itical-machine
Seriously???
A rational conservative?
From the OP:
Chuck Hagel being confirmed would put a nail in the coffin of neocon military policy.
Outside of the part about Obama being a bigger war mongerer than Bush (
So I guess JFK had a Neocon foreign policy
One huge thing I noticed on the hearing was how scared the Congresspeople are of Sequestor.
Repugs running a propaganda strafing on Hagel who spoke against the Iraq war, with lies about how the Repug Iraq war for oil was justified, the Repugs Generals/Rummy (saturated he was with "unknown unknowns") knew exactly what they were getting into and were highly competent, that Repug-supported Petraues' counter-insurgency worked, and that Repugs Won The Iraq War. All lies to re-write history, Pravda-style.
No, the obsession back then was countering Communism.
neo-con assholes want to start wars with non-threats, just because they can, and esp when (neo-con) wars fantastically enrich their patrons in the MIC. It's ALWAYS ALWAYS about money, redistributing wealth from the 99% to the 1%.
JFK is to Gulf of Tonkin as George Bush is to WMD.
No, LBJ told the Tonkin Gulf lie, not JFK
My mistake.
Keep telling yourself that...
Bush 2 ground invasions, 100,000-500,000+ dead including 10'000's of innocent women and children...illegal chemical weapons used...torture and rendition to torture holes...depravity, desecration, decadence...
...all those are equal to a few innocent civilian deaths
Your an idiot.
LOL...
Fuzzy being corrected by ShazBot....
And he admits it!
Hagel isn't scorched-earth, extremely pure for Repugs
GOP Threatens Walkout on Chuck Hagel Vote
The top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee threatened on Monday to hold up the nomination of Chuck Hagel to become the next secretary of Defense if the committee supports him on Tuesday, vowing to force Democrats to come up with 60 votes to confirm him on the Senate floor.
A spokeswoman for Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) confirmed to POLITICO that he wanted to drag out the confirmation process for the former Republican senator from Nebraska.
Inhofe’s threat continued GOP brinksmanship that got under way on Sunday when Republican aides first said that some senators might walk out of a meeting that included a vote on Hagel. Inhofe and another top Republican on the committee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, both said Monday they would not walk out, but Inhofe repeated his vow to press the battle against Hagel.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/chuck-hagel-vote-gop-threatens-walkout-87444.html?hp=f2
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