Dominating a bunch of scrubs in the D-League. Whoopity doo.
call up cojo to get a legit shot at the back up pg spot ...................
Last edited by playblair; 02-23-2013 at 09:57 PM.
Dominating a bunch of scrubs in the D-League. Whoopity doo.
He can play D and pass, already better than Neal tbh
Trade him while he seems to have value.
I'm not sure what more they need to see from CoJo at this point from a development perspective. He's a much improved shooter from when he came into the league, plays solid defense and runs the sets effectively. He hasn't had a breakout game with the big club, but he hasn't looked bad in the small time he's been given either.
I suppose the Spurs have the luxury of depth to be patient, but imo Joseph actually represents the lowest risk proposition for backup PG at the moment.
Better than Neal at the point guard position, but he's not better than Neal overall.
I don't think Joseph is an NBA player. I have never liked his game or though of him as a contributing player. He has a LONG WAY to go.
Dominating scrubs > Playing like a scrub
It's a start.
Glad he's ballin down there but the NBA is whole different animal. I bet he stays down there the rest of this year and makes the team next year.
He just looks so soft every time he's on the floor, tbh..
De Colo > Mills > CoJo > Neal at backup PG, but I realize it's highly debatable and the sample size is tiny with anyone but Neal (that's just how much I dislike Neal at backup pg).
NDC just seems like the only one who could potentially create for his teammates on offense and not just run the plays, but he is a severely limited scorer and defender so it wouldn't surprise me if he rides the pine in the playoffs, especially given his youth. This brings up the point that De Colo is a terrible option alongside Manu, because with Manu running the PnR De Colo becomes a spot-up shooter. Sure he can hit an open shot here and there, but Neal/Mills will always be better for this.
I put Mills over Neal because - perhaps illogically - I feel as though they basically cons ute the same gamble for Pop on a night by night basis. Either they hit threes or they don't. Mills on his best nights looks basically as good as Neal on his best nights- lights out shooting and acceptable defense. Thing is, Mills has never been given what I see as a true shot at backup PG. Sure, a game or two here or there he'll play if Neal is injured or earlier in the season when it seemed like the spot was up for grabs, but I don't feel like he ever got the kind of shot Neal got last year, he's never been given consistent minutes for this team. Sure, the Olympics are the Olympics, but we could all agree that Mills at least has more upward potential in the league right now than Neal, who isn't even guaranteed to be on the team next year. We know what Gary Neal is. We know what he's going to be, come playoff time (if not worse). I don't think you can make the case that Mills, given Neal's minutes, will come playoff time give us anything worse that what Neal gives us, other than the fact that Neal hit a clutch three in the playoffs two years ago.
Grooming De Colo could be critical, though, because if he can playmake at even a comparable rate to Manu in the PnR, it gives us the option to start Manu and tell Brooks to off with that Sefalosha bull . Manu will eat Westbrook for breakfast.
And keeping Neal at least somewhat confident will be useful in the playoffs, when Manu eats a ton of minutes and Green/Neal basically give us the flexibility to be defense/offense-centric off the bench, depending on our need.
Gah, I hate thinking about this. I don't envy Pop.
LOL, true.
I still think Nando should be our backup PG, though, tbh, per par.
Last edited by superjames1992; 02-24-2013 at 02:27 AM. Reason: Correction
that doesn't surprise me. he looked so good in summer league. i expected expiring undersized neal to get traded... free up some minutes for cojo. the spurs patience and evaluation process is excessive, imo.
The Nando signing totally screwed over Joseph. With this new emphasis on defensive relentlessness, Joseph would be a great fit. But he still has not been given a true chance this season, and unless Nando has a meltdown of Franchise Historic proportions, I don't see Joseph getting a shot next year either. It was an easy call from draft night that the Spurs made a mistake in drafting Joseph. Not that Joseph is bad, it's just that the Spurs did not need him. Him being the least played draft pick of the last 4 or 5 years proves that.
He will get his crack next season
people are saying next year but isnt De Colo Mills and Parker all slated to be back next year??
Mills' contract is a player option for next year.
I'll say this though: I think he's gonna be in the rotation next year. Hill was drafted after playing 3 years in college; Joseph was a one-and-done kid.
The fact that the Spurs have committed to paying Joseph for three years shows that they believe in his potential. They picked up his option after training camp, so they probably had already decided that he was was going to spend this year in Austin before guaranteeing him the money. They also could have salary dumped him and chose not to.
De Colo doesn't have Joseph's upside at the point. If Cory comes into camp showing the stuff he's been showing all year, he should have a good chance to beat Nando in a fair compe ion.
One factor that may come into play is what happens with Ginobili. If Manu retires, then De Colo probably moves to the two and Joseph and Mills compete for minutes at the point.
can de colo shoot well enough to play 2 Guard?
Honestly I am not sold on Nando's ability to be a full-time PG. Never been since his arrival. He is a turnover machine as a PG. To me he is a 2 with great passing abilities, Manu-like.
He was all right in Europe. Another summer with Chip will help him.
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