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Q: When was the last time an NBA team won with a dominant big as their leading scorer?
Q: When was the last time an NBA team won a championship without a dominant Big an a PG as their top scorer?
I love my Spurs and I only wish another ring for our core players, but we really need to answer this question. Tim still playing at a high level, but his not dominant like he was, and is understandable, we all know that his the best big we got. We cannot win another ring with a PG as our best scorer. We still have a chance to win it all, but thats the same as the lotto chances. We need to trade for a dominant big, we are not going to get him in the draft, and we aint getting him by free agency, so the only option is the trade. Once again, I love the my Spurs, but they need to trade who ever we need to trade to get that one dominant big..........
Q: When was the last time an NBA team won with a dominant big as their leading scorer?
I believe the Spurs did, with Duncan, and I also believe I ask for a dominant big, like Shaq with the LA and the Heat, or Gasol with LA, or Dirt in Dallas. Q: When was the last time an NBA team won a championship without a dominant Big an a PG as their top scorer?
LeBron is basicly a PG in forward body
But his not a PG, his a SF. Hes a player that needs the ball on his hands to start his ofense and not a type of player to run through screen aka Ray Allen, or Reggie Miller.
What`s the diffence. Isnt PG deciding what play team is going to run? LeBron does it, when it matters. Chalmers isnt on the court in crunch time.
D-Wade was the clear leader and leading scorer of the 06 heat. if you want to get technical TP was the leading scorer in the 2011 finals. Dirk is awesome, but "dominant big" is a misleading le for him
Then I guess Kobe is a PG, MJ is a PG, on and on and on. So I guess Gary Neal is a PG because hes deciding what play the team is running. The difference is him getting rebounds and not being limited by the size of a PG, or always creating miss matches(no matter who guards him) something a real PG cannot create, and by the way, you are talking about LJ, an individual that posses a body and athleticism never seem before....
OK, Wade not a PG, and the Spurs didnt make it to the 2011 Finals, so TP wasnt playing... And Dirk is unstopable when healthy, so that is dominant....
The names of positions were created so fans could more easily follow the game. Is Duncan a Center or Power forward? was oscar robertson a point guard or shooting guard. didn't KG essentially play point guard for a while on the wolves? point guard gets offense into sets and is responsible for directing the play and getting himself and teammates good shots
So, is LJ is not a SF, and TD is not the greatest PF, wow. Now, Positions were created to have a player an a distance from the rim, according to their sizes and skills. Now, when it comes to players like Magic Johnson or LJ, players that can actually play any position on the floor, because of their size and skill, and teams usually do that to create miss matches. Can a Center defend a Poing Guard by the 3 point line? No, cause he doesnt have the quickness, can he defend him by the rim, just because he has the size, can the PG guard the paint? and on and on, thats the reason why they created positions. If want fans to more easily follow the games, just create numbers, oh we got that. How about names, we got that too.....
but he didn't play like a PG...He played more like a Power Forward and it helped mask the Heat's weak frontcourt presence
Finally, somebody with knowledge...
who still happened to make plays.
I think trying to pigeonhole LeBron James into a traditional position is a fruitless task.
I seriously doubt that since all the rules in basketball apply to all the positions, which is actually quite unique in the history of team sports in which certain positions are official and get certains rights (without even going to the extreme of football, most of the games have e.g. a goalkeeper).
Positions in b-ball are simply categories and quite artificial at that. The 1-2-3-4-5 scheme is like the 4-4-2 in soccer: it's a common setup, but in no way the only one possible or even authorized. That's what creates all the somewhat silly discussions about center vs PF and so on, or the creation of unlikely labels such as "point-forward" (Lebron says hi).
Coming back to the OP, quality bigs are certainly welcome, but not necessary. Actually Shaq and Duncan were the last dominating bigs to win a le, and that was a while ago.
the NAMES of positions were put to make the game easy to follow. its only natural, however, that larger players gravitate towards the rim. doesn't necessarily dictate the way they play. this is why you can have guys like physically similar players have completely different roles/play styles.
for example, when it comes to the lakers, i couldn't care less who was shorter or taller. fisher didn't do anything resembling a point guard besides dribbling the ball to half court, then promptly handing it off the kobe and running to the corner. kobe for all intents and purposes ran the offense and the triangle usually ran through him anyway. so even though kobe is a shooting guard, he pretty much ran the offense (and hence, the point) for the Lakers. it's all mudded up tbh.
just because parker is our leading scorer doesn't mean he's not capable of being a floor general that directs offense, gets us into sets, and sets up teammates for easy shots. maybe in a certain situation he will defer more and take a back seat in the scoring department if need be. i have confidence in Pop and TP to make these decisions. hence, i'm not worried that our point guard is our leading scorer
So, Dirk 2011 doesnt count? For what I remember he was dominating, the whole time....
First of all, I never nothing negative about TP. The question remains, when was the last time a team won a championship with a true PG as their leading scorer, not a SF or a PF or a C or a SG that can switch to PG, or can call plays??
And thats the question, because thats where our team stands...
Exactly. Lebron didn't win till he got in the post and started getting easy baskets. The Mavs won when he stayed on the perimeter. Dirk was dominant in '11 operating out of the high post. He won a couple of games that way. The fact is to win a championship your best player needs a goto move or area he can work from consistently. What's that for TP? What's the move he goes to when he needs a basket. He can't always hope to beat guys of the dribble because the other team will pack the paint and throw length at him.
Billups 2004. Finals MVP: Chauncey Billups (21.0/3.2/5.2). But RIP Hamilton was leading scorer with 21.4
I don't think using the greatest jump shooting big in the history of the universe as an example really helps your case here. He did dominate, but not because he was 7ft tall.
Another thing: you might have read about the importance of bold here, but it's not what you think it means. All bold is like all caps, it sucks.
Isaiah Thomas. Magic. Point guards can lead teams to les, especially in this age with the rules that favor quickness over post play.
the star of that team was the Defense. They won with a sum a complementary players playing at a high level in particular in the D end.
But question was about true PG leading their team in scoring. One FG diffrence in 5 games between Hamilton and Billups. I think Billups could be the answer to that question.
And yeah, Piston killed 2 option Lakers with their defense
BOLD OR CAPS, you are very sensitive my friend. And when you said that Dirt dominated and it wasnt because his 7', then I dont know what to say about you and your logic. And yes the 1-2-3-4-5 scheme is like the 4-4-2 in soccer: it's a common setup, is true, buuuuuuuuut, we were talking about the reason the name position in b-ball, not how the game has gone through some evolution, the fact is that LJ has a different body type than TP, and therefore hes able to play different positions.
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