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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    Rippin N Tearin fevertrees's Avatar
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    like an article from a diehard Celtics fan is worth a in regards to the GOAT behind Jordan!

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    like an article from a diehard Celtics fan is worth a in regards to the GOAT behind Jordan!


    no photoshop, tbh

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    Wow, another Celtics fan article about Kobe being overrated. That's like reading an article from Bill O'reilly on Bill Clinton's legacy

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Still



    Truce bombs

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    Solid article. Will recommend to others.

    It's funny how there's a lot of anti-Kobe literature on the web these days (and rightfully so), while on the other hand there is a lot of pro-Duncan literature. At this rate, Tim will be remembered in a much better light by future generations. And again, rightfully so.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Fine, you have that light. I'm stickin' with this:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

    Let us proceed...

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    Fine, you have that light. I'm stickin' with this:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

    Let us proceed...
    some spurs fan should quote you everytime you post with a picture of shaq's shoes and

    Finals MVP

    TD:3
    the ultimate chucker: 2

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    some spurs fan should quote you everytime you post with a picture of shaq's shoes and

    Finals MVP

    TD:3
    the ultimate chucker: 2
    I don't do dust collector's, prettys, MVPs, MIPs, et al & etc. I do two things:::

    1. make the playoffs
    2. win the last game you play

    Even (1) is nothing more than the means to attain (2). Without 2, 1 renders you to the field of 29.

    Ipso facto, "spurs fan" can have that . Me? I'm stickin' with:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

    Come ta Pappy.

    Signed,

    - Pappy

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Well thought out and analysed, backed up by facts.

    Certainly better than unconvincing arguments by taking purely team accomplishments as the one and only gauge.

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    I don't do dust collector's, prettys, MVPs, MIPs, et al & etc. I do two things:::

    1. make the playoffs
    2. win the last game you play

    Even (1) is nothing more than the means to attain (2). Without 2, 1 renders you to the field of 29.

    Ipso facto, "spurs fan" can have that . Me? I'm stickin' with:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

    Come ta Pappy.

    Signed,

    - Pappy
    There is an interesting dichotomy in your "Kobe 5, TOSBD 4" refrain — on one hand, you maintain that individual awards such as MVPs, FMVPs do not count. On the other hand, you credit whole les to individuals as if they were an individual award.

    If you had said "Lakers 16, Spurs 4" that would make sense, because it is true; the Lakers franchise as a whole has achieved 16 les, even if a few are tainted.

    If you had said, "Since 1999, Lakers 5, Spurs 4" that would also make sense.

    Kobe, however, has not achieved 5 les individually. Duncan has not achieved 4 individually. At best, both have done the lion's share of work on 2 and 3 les, respectively. Thus why Kobe has 2 FMVPs and Duncan 3. Given your lack of interest in "dust collectors" — that is to say, individually accolades — it is more than a little confusing for you to credit les thus as individual awards; especially when FMVPs already does a better job gauging the amount of work each player did in earning his respective team a le.

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    I agree with the premise, but most of the arguments are pretty ty, tbh..

    Poor article, overall IMO..

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    Good read!

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    Manu Mania lefty20's Avatar
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    I agree with the premise, but most of the arguments are pretty ty, tbh..

    Poor article, overall IMO..
    Idk, most of those arguments seemed legit and backed up with incontrovertible stats.

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    There is an interesting dichotomy in your "Kobe 5, TOSBD 4" refrain — on one hand, you maintain that individual awards such as MVPs, FMVPs do not count. On the other hand, you credit whole les to individuals as if they were an individual award.

    If you had said "Lakers 16, Spurs 4" that would make sense, because it is true; the Lakers franchise as a whole has achieved 16 les, even if a few are tainted.

    If you had said, "Since 1999, Lakers 5, Spurs 4" that would also make sense.

    Kobe, however, has not achieved 5 les individually. Duncan has not achieved 4 individually. At best, both have done the lion's share of work on 2 and 3 les, respectively. Thus why Kobe has 2 FMVPs and Duncan 3. Given your lack of interest in "dust collectors" — that is to say, individually accolades — it is more than a little confusing for you to credit les thus as individual awards; especially when FMVPs already does a better job gauging the amount of work each player did in earning his respective team a le.
    As much as this pretty much sums it up, his reply is gonna be:

    Kobe: 5
    Tired old bag Duncan: 4

    No matter how much intelligence is thrown at him, he's an idiot with simple replies.

    Also, very interesting and truthful article. Kobe fans will ignore it and say things like what have already appeared on this thread.

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    Truth bomb article. It points out the stupidity of Kobe fans in an undeniable manner.

    The fact that most people here already had seen all of these sickening media tactics and hated Kobe even more because of it - and pointed it out to kobe fans repeatedly - and the way that kobe fans still refuse to see - confirms this stupidity even more.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    There is an interesting dichotomy in your "Kobe 5, TOSBD 4" refrain — on one hand, you maintain that individual awards such as MVPs, FMVPs do not count. On the other hand, you credit whole les to individuals as if they were an individual award.

    If you had said "Lakers 16, Spurs 4" that would make sense, because it is true; the Lakers franchise as a whole has achieved 16 les, even if a few are tainted.

    If you had said, "Since 1999, Lakers 5, Spurs 4" that would also make sense.

    Kobe, however, has not achieved 5 les individually. Duncan has not achieved 4 individually. At best, both have done the lion's share of work on 2 and 3 les, respectively. Thus why Kobe has 2 FMVPs and Duncan 3. Given your lack of interest in "dust collectors" — that is to say, individually accolades — it is more than a little confusing for you to credit les thus as individual awards; especially when FMVPs already does a better job gauging the amount of work each player did in earning his respective team a le.
    Boiled down:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    Boiled down:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4
    There is an interesting dichotomy in your "Kobe 5, TOSBD 4" refrain — on one hand, you maintain that individual awards such as MVPs, FMVPs do not count. On the other hand, you credit whole les to individuals as if they were an individual award.

    If you had said "Lakers 16, Spurs 4" that would make sense, because it is true; the Lakers franchise as a whole has achieved 16 les, even if a few are tainted.

    If you had said, "Since 1999, Lakers 5, Spurs 4" that would also make sense.

    Kobe, however, has not achieved 5 les individually. Duncan has not achieved 4 individually. At best, both have done the lion's share of work on 2 and 3 les, respectively. Thus why Kobe has 2 FMVPs and Duncan 3. Given your lack of interest in "dust collectors" — that is to say, individually accolades — it is more than a little confusing for you to credit les thus as individual awards; especially when FMVPs already does a better job gauging the amount of work each player did in earning his respective team a le.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    There is an interesting dichotomy in your "Kobe 5, TOSBD 4" refrain — on one hand, you maintain that individual awards such as MVPs, FMVPs do not count. On the other hand, you credit whole les to individuals as if they were an individual award.

    If you had said "Lakers 16, Spurs 4" that would make sense, because it is true; the Lakers franchise as a whole has achieved 16 les, even if a few are tainted.

    If you had said, "Since 1999, Lakers 5, Spurs 4" that would also make sense.

    Kobe, however, has not achieved 5 les individually. Duncan has not achieved 4 individually. At best, both have done the lion's share of work on 2 and 3 les, respectively. Thus why Kobe has 2 FMVPs and Duncan 3. Given your lack of interest in "dust collectors" — that is to say, individually accolades — it is more than a little confusing for you to credit les thus as individual awards; especially when FMVPs already does a better job gauging the amount of work each player did in earning his respective team a le.
    You ain't talking me out of it, Jugs. If & when the roles are reversed I would die before I tried to talk you out it. Take it like a trooper:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    You ain't talking me out of it, Jugs. If & when the roles are reversed I would die before I tried to talk you out it. Take it like a trooper:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4
    I'm gonna go with:::

    Lakers since '99: 5
    Spurs since '99: 4

    &

    TOSB Duncan: 3
    Kobe: 2

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    You ain't talking me out of it, Jugs. If & when the roles are reversed I would die before I tried to talk you out it. Take it like a trooper:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4
    the roles were reversed and nobody gave a since Shaq was Duncan's main rival.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    I'm gonna go with:::

    Lakers since '99: 5
    Spurs since '99: 4

    &

    TOSB Duncan: 3
    Kobe: 2
    Knock yerself out. I'll stick with:::

    Kpbe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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