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    then add in the Ms of workers in ty, low-paid, unwanted part-time/temp jobs considered as "employed"

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    How many baby boomers have retired now that the stock markets are back up and their IRA's are no longer ty? The generation is now 48 to 68 years old. Note the age of the oldest, note the minimum age for SS benefits and imagine the trend going forward.

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    Raise the minimum wage and the participation rate will go up......duh!

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    Raise the minimum wage and the participation rate will go up......duh!
    Or...

    Reduce government assistance, and people will take lower paying jobs.

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    Or...

    Reduce government assistance, and people will take lower paying jobs.
    That didn't work under Clinton.....welfare moms worked 40 hours per week, took buses to work for hours and the kids? Latch key kids with no supervision..

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    OK everyone, just stop buying imports and demand manufacturing return here.

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    That didn't work under Clinton.....welfare moms worked 40 hours per week, took buses to work for hours and the kids? Latch key kids with no supervision..
    Do you really think it made a difference? As a statistical group, they were poor parents to begin with.

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    Do you really think it made a difference? As a statistical group, they were poor parents to begin with.
    Stereotyping gets you everywhere...there are plenty of affluent poor parents..but at least they get the opportunity to be parents..

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    Stereotyping gets you everywhere...there are plenty of affluent poor parents..but at least they get the opportunity to be parents..
    I see.

    It's OK for you to do it, but not the rest of us.

    OK...

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    Rent is too damn high


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    What is it with you board liberals? Think about this saying we need higher minimum wage and why you say we need it. You are thinking it to be a bandage solution for people's irresponsibility.

    Most of these people should have never had kids to begin with. They should be stigmatized, and scorned, as an example. So others don't want to follow in their footsteps. We need to do something to stop people from having kids that cannot afford to have kids.

    Solve the root problems, and stop imposing ideas on the rest of society to deal with your acceptance of irresponsibility.

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    ^ lol authoritarian

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    Most of these people should have never had kids to begin with. They should be stigmatized, and scorned, as an example. So others don't want to follow in their footsteps. We need to do something to stop people from having kids that cannot afford to have kids.

    Solve the root problems, and stop imposing ideas on the rest of society to deal with your acceptance of irresponsibility.
    Sterilize the poor? or kill them? put them in a camp perhaps? throw a punisher emblem on them?

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    ^ lol authoritarian
    Do libertarians advocate lack of responsibility?

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    Sterilize the poor? or kill them? put them in a camp perhaps? throw a punisher emblem on them?
    Twist what I say as you wish, but stigmas work.

    If you wish to support the irresponsible people of this nation, then get together with like minded people, and start a charity for them. Put your own money where your mouth is. Just stay out of the tax payers money, and my wallet.

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    Twist what I say as you wish, but stigmas work.
    Stigmas like "47% are takers"? Yeah, that worked really well...

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    the actual unemployment rate should be much higher than what's shown in the graph imho. a good deal of those who're currently "employed" are in fact underemployed, who have to work heavy hours but barely make 1k dollars a month in AMERICA, which's atrocious and hilarious. among all people of working age, only half of them are being full-time employed imho.

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    ....maybe Hitler was just a misunderstood libertarian who advocated personal responsibility?

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    the actual unemployment rate should be much higher than what's shown in the graph imho. a good deal of those who're currently "employed" are in fact underemployed, who have to work heavy hours but barely make 1k dollars a month in AMERICA, which's atrocious and hilarious. among all people of working age, only half of them are being full-time employed imho.
    Utopia doesn't exist. There will always be someone who has to work undesirable low wage jobs.

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    Utopia doesn't exist. There will always be someone who has to work undesirable low wage jobs.
    ..and it's their right to do it full-time and still not make a living wage...

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    ....maybe Hitler was just a misunderstood libertarian who advocated personal responsibility?
    You are twisted Dan.

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    ..and it's their right to do it full-time and still not make a living wage...
    Yes. It is their lot in life. They can work to improve their life, but it is not for you socialists to make us pay for them if you wish to enable them. Do it with your own money, and like minded friends if you want to help them. Just stay out of my wallet.

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    Or...

    Reduce government assistance, and people will take lower paying jobs.
    taxpayers already top up Walmart workers to a living wage with foodstamps and medicaid. You're ing stupid. Raise the minimum wage to $15/hour to get people off assistance.
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    Two-Thirds of Small Business Owners Support a Higher Minimum Wage

    The advocacy group Small Business Majority is out this morning with a new survey that bolsters efforts to raise the minimum wage.


    President Obama ignited the debate earlier this year when he proposed raising the hourly minimum wage from $7.25 to $9, arguing that it would help working families. Congressional Democrats countered with a higher bid, suggesting $10.10. Both proposals would tie the minimum wage to inflation so it keeps up with the cost of living.

    Conservative groups have pushed back, protesting that a higher minimum wage would hurt businesses at a sensitive time and force them to lay off low-wage workers. But Small Business Majority’s survey sheds doubt on this argument. Here are some of the highlights:

    • When asked whether they support increasing the federal minimum wage and tying it to inflation, a full two-thirds of small business owners were in favor.
    • When presented competing arguments on the minimum wage issue – will it benefit the working poor, or will it lead to higher prices and more unemployment? – 65 percent sided with those who believe hiking wages would help the poorest Americans and reduce the pressure on government assistance.
    • Two-thirds agreed that a minimum wage increase would help the economy by putting more money in the hands of those most likely to spend it.



    A higher minimum wage, then, attracts overwhelming support from a group of people who are truly “small business” owners by any definition. All of the individuals polled by Small Business Majority ran their own company, with 69 percent bringing in annual revenue under $500,000. Only a handful reported family income over $250,000.

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