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    God Talks To Me. angel_luv's Avatar
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    I am sure you all have very good reasons, so let's hear them! I won't like any of them but I am listening.

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    His deal is longer and if he has indeed lost his role on the team, you get into a Malik-like "play him or trade him" situation. The new CBA may have made the need to choose the latter a bit less imperative than it was with Malik.

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    Just and opinion, no a reason

    Nazr showed more "warrior-spirit" (if you allow me the expression) than Rasho; Rasho is a good player in some ocasion plays tremendous "D" but in some games he showed very very soft, on the other "hand"... I am worried about "Nazr's hands" sometimes he loos like washs his hands with oil.

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    They both have major limitations in individual skills and fundamentals. The choice, imo, is which has less weaknesses.

    All I care about is that "may the better man win" the starting C in November. We'll see whether Rasho has the fight in him to win it back (which I think is well within his reach), and whether Nazr can improve on defense and hustle enough to keep his starting role. However, at their ages and experiences, I don't expect either to have much, if any, "blossoming' left.

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    I am sure you all have very good reasons, so let's hear them! I won't like any of them but I am listening.
    Nazr is more athletic and, therefore, has more unrealized potential (upside). It also just so happens that Rasho lacks a 'fire-in-the-belly' aggressiveness.

    However, and this is a pet peeve...Nazr had better learn how to catch the damn ball.
    Last edited by caspian; 07-09-2005 at 10:44 AM.

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    Nazr's a little quicker, a better shot blocker, a little better at scoring in the post, and has a better jumpshot (by a little). Nazr matches up better against the quicker c's in the league, rasho matches up with the old time centers of 10 years ago.

    I only see rasho effective against guys like shaq and yao. Other then those 2 matchups I don't see why he would have to start. My biggest complaint with rasho is that it seems like he can't make up his mind on what to do with the ball. Once he makes his decision he's so slow that he gets a contested shot.

    Nazr looks like mister butterfingers. tp would have averaged another 2 apg in the finals if he could hold on to the damn ball, and these were nice feather touch passes.

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    , trade 'em both for Magloire.....how come we haven't heard that one?

    Maybe they could throw in Nailon too....


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    All right guys, I am no basketball guru. I know enough to get by. Also I am slightly = ) biased on the subject. But for fun, here is an honest effort at objectivity.

    Rasho and Nazr are both talented and each have had shining moments.

    Nazr is very good at getting the offensive rebound and going right back up. I agree that he doesn't have the best hands.

    Rasho plays excellent defense I think and also does well at setting screens. I like that this will be Rasho's third year having played under Pop's system as opposed to it being Nazr's first full season with us.

    Rah has his nice hook shot and might score more often if he didn't defer to Timmy. I think Nazr has the scoring edge although I am not sure by how much.
    Maybe the Spurs want a center who scores more, I don't know.

    Bottom line, so far as I am concerned:
    Keeping any player is somewhat of a risk. Since, I have endless faith in Rasho ( and am partial to him), he gets my vote of confidence over Nazr.

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    Nazr dunks. Rasho lays it up. 'Nuff said.

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    Rasho is soft and a big reason why San Antonio didn't win the championship last year. You can't win a championship with Rasho starting. Nazr is much better.

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    we lost last year because of .4, robert horry didnt have his shot, and on occassion we couldnt hit jump shots.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    Occasionally. After a few pump fakes. He needs to learn just to go straight up.

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    Rasho = Soft

    Thats why I want him traded. He plays timid, is not agressive enough( seldom takes it strong to the basket and gets out husseled on the glass) and doesn't play up to his size. He is also hard to watch play, capital Boring.

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    Spurschick,

    THat was partially tongue in cheek.

    However, it is a microcosm of how Nazr is aggressive while Rasho plays so weak around the rim.

    I think you'll see less pump fakes next year when Nazr's completely healthy (people seem to want to gloss over the fact he played the entire playoffs with a bum leg).

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    Rasho was always the weakest link in the starting position..

    No real role....

    you might say defense, but anyone else in his spot can play the same defense or better.

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    you might say defense, but anyone else in his spot can play the same defense or better.
    Except no one has.

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    Hmm... under Pop?

    You doubting that?

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    Hmm... under Pop?

    You doubting that?
    Yes.

    Nazr, TMass, Horry, Marks -- none have played D as well as Rasho.

    If you want DRob back, give him a jingle. Otherwise it's the main reason for keeping Rasho around.

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    Hmm, as far as I know you really shouldn't doubt Nazr on that one. He's better at the boards, and he's a good blocker.

    Horry is underrated when it comes to defense, he won us games last season due to his blocks and steals, and who cares about TMass and Marks? Personally I don't like em...that's why they are bench.

    I do believe we can bring a big man to San Antonio and he will have more defensive impact than Rasho.

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    Consider whos asking the question and move on.

    Ive always said, if you could find someone better than NEsterovic, bring him in, till then leave the guy alone.

    Nazr Mohammed>>>>>>>Nesterovic that simple.

    Hes got some worth as a scoring and good defensive center, and if you can get a SF or big or whatever in return for that, to fill the holes in this team you do it.

    That simple.

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    , trade 'em both for Magloire.....how come we haven't heard that one?

    Maybe they could throw in Nailon too....

    WTF you thinking!?! Magloire is only good in the East, he didn't do in the West.

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    [QUOTE=T Park]Consider who's asking the question and move on.(QUOTE]

    Asking a valid question, is not lame. However, hitting on two women at the same GTG ( Goombah's) is.

    So here is a helpful reminder for you to carry along with you as you "move on": Girls talk!

    Happy trails!

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    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
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    [QUOTE=angel_luv]
    Consider who's asking the question and move on.(QUOTE]

    Asking a valid question, is not lame. However, hitting on two women at the same GTG ( Goombah's) is.

    So here is a helpful reminder for you to carry along with you as you "move on": Girls talk!

    Happy trails!

    Not trying to get inbetween this one, but I think you make him look good when saying he's hitting on two women, especially if it's T Park.

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    God Talks To Me. angel_luv's Avatar
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    I shouldn't have said it in the first place. It was no big deal. I was amused more than I was offended.
    Sorry T-Park.

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    WTF you thinking!?!
    Unclench. It was a joke -- though it's not like our centers are really lighting anyone up.

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