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    I see a lot of got spurs fans always hating on the lakers, when the score is clearly 16-4 and 5-4. But even if we started at Zero. Where will you guys be in the next ten years? What can you hope to do? I would surmise, that the Spurs have the biggest bandwagon outside of the Heat. Think about it. Who were spurs fans before Duncan got here? People call Pop a genius but he wasn't that when they were sucking in the 90's without Duncan. Probably a few in san antonio, but really. What have yall done outside of the Duncan Era, and what can you expect to do when its over? Nobody wants to play in San Antonio. You don't go over the cap, so what are you going to do? Watch how the Spurs fans drop off the planet once Duncan is gone.


    The Lakers, will always be perinneal players. We already have a Franchise Center who's Led a team to the finals. We have that for the next 8 years. 2014, We'll be able to Sign Melo or KLove. What will you do then? Waiting for Kahwi Leonard to make an allstar team?

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    I know the GIF's of Duncan laughing at howard are coming, but you know that you would love to have him going forward to play alongside duncan.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    Chip could actually improve Howard's FT shooting. He'd be dangerous then. In LA, he's just a scapegoat for the adopted bas rapist.

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    They weren't calling Pop a genius because he wasn't the coach.

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    Veteran Raven's Avatar
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    the funny thing is that if you sign love, melo and howard, you still wouldn't win

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    Believe. Brunodf's Avatar
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    5-8 seed at best(just like the Lakers without Shaq/Gasol past of his prime)

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    What kind of Laker fan are you that you want them to sign Howard? He ain't worth the max money. He's done jack to improve his game since he went to the Finals.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    In 10 years Kobe will still be chucking 28 shots a game and refusing to hand over the reigns

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    Believe.
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    What kind of Laker fan are you that you want them to sign Howard? He ain't worth the max money. He's done jack to improve his game since he went to the Finals.

    Those are talking points with an agenda. Howard when healthy is absolutely dominant.

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    ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) AaronY's Avatar
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    Another Steven A Smith/ ESPN talking point by hating on Jim Buss.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    How many ty fake laker alts can be created on one site?

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    Those are talking points with an agenda. Howard when healthy is absolutely dominant.
    Who coaches him?

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    Pop took his brain back. xellos88330's Avatar
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    Same place the Spurs usually are. If you are going to use history in your arguments, perhaps you should actually look up the Spurs history. They have made the playoffs every year since they joined the NBA with the exception of 4 years (84, 87, 89, 97). I expect more of the same. It looks like someone needs to learn how to troll.

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    How many stars are in the sky??

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    Spur Forever urunobili's Avatar
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    2 more banners raised and 21,9 and 20 in the rafters tbh

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    Believe.
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    Same place the Spurs usually are. If you are going to use history in your arguments, perhaps you should actually look up the Spurs history. They have made the playoffs every year since they joined the NBA with the exception of 4 years (84, 87, 89, 97). I expect more of the same. It looks like someone needs to learn how to troll.

    Meaningless playoff appearances with no success. We guess the lakers will win another championship before you do

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    hope and change
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    LOL this is sad, like Yankee fan jeering at Giants or Marlins fan: "Oh yeah? well my team will continue to spend millions and millions more than your team so suck it!"

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    wemby enjoyer 100%duncan's Avatar
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    Reaaaaaaaaching

    I'll just use future smack talk
    our franchise can just sign future superstars while theirs cant
    we suck right now so this is my retort


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    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
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    Probably in San Antonio.

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    Buss is a goofy looking mother er. One of those cases where you can just tell someone if dumb as just by looking at him.

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    Set for life Budkin's Avatar
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    Probably in San Antonio.
    Yes.

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    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
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    I see a lot of got spurs fans always hating on the lakers, when the score is clearly 16-4 and 5-4. But even if we started at Zero. Where will you guys be in the next ten years? What can you hope to do? I would surmise, that the Spurs have the biggest bandwagon outside of the Heat. Think about it. Who were spurs fans before Duncan got here? People call Pop a genius but he wasn't that when they were sucking in the 90's without Duncan. Probably a few in san antonio, but really. What have yall done outside of the Duncan Era, and what can you expect to do when its over? Nobody wants to play in San Antonio. You don't go over the cap, so what are you going to do? Watch how the Spurs fans drop off the planet once Duncan is gone.


    The Lakers, will always be perinneal players. We already have a Franchise Center who's Led a team to the finals. We have that for the next 8 years. 2014, We'll be able to Sign Melo or KLove. What will you do then? Waiting for Kahwi Leonard to make an allstar team?
    It's a Tuesday like any other. Then, in the afternoon, there's a knock at the door. The dog starts barking and wakes our 12-week-old baby, Sam. My partner, Keiron, looks out of the upstairs window to see two women at the front door. We assume they are Jehovah's Witnesses and Keiron leans out, saying he can't come down. Then everything changes.
    The women are police. They work in child protection services. Keiron, Sam and I go downstairs to find out what's going on. They tell us to sit down and ask Keiron if he knows why they are here. He says no. Then they tell us an allegation about a sex offence made by a child at the nursery where he works.
    My stomach turns to concrete. I have no shadow of doubt that this is a horrible mistake. I hold Sam in disbelief, calculating all the ways this is going to mess up our lives.
    They take our computer away. I'm self-employed, so even though Sam is very young I am still working. I watch my livelihood vanish through the door and ask the police: "Are there any guarantees that it will come back unharmed?" No, they say, adding that it will be a minimum of four to six weeks until it is returned – assuming that it is clean of pornographic images of children. We're told that paedophiles look at on-screen images of children before moving on to the real thing, so the computer will indicate Keiron's guilt or otherwise.
    Keiron is arrested and taken to the police station but released on bail on condition that he does not spend time unsupervised with anyone under the age of 18. This includes our child.
    I cannot believe that this can happen. We are a sleepless couple with a baby, already struggling with all the things a new family faces.
    My freedom is suddenly curtailed, too, because I will now have to care for our son 24/7. So neither of us can work.
    Keiron is currently working out his notice at the nursery – he has resigned to become a nanny. He's just about to start the new job – we will have to tell them what he's been accused of and that he cannot be alone with a child.
    In a final blow, we discover that this allegation will never be wiped from Keiron's record. From here on, if he is ever stopped at the side of the road by the police, they will know that he has been accused of one of the darkest crimes.
    The following weeks
    We discuss who to tell. On one hand, Keiron has absolutely nothing to hide. On the other, there are the cliches of "no smoke without fire" and "mud sticks". At least we know that old friends and family will know the truth. In the outside world, the Jimmy Savile scandal is unfolding. I hear experts explaining that paedophiles seek out jobs that allow them to get close to children. They say nothing about kind, loving men who adore bringing out the best in children.
    Four weeks later
    We get a call from the police saying both our computers have come back clean. We are delighted – the police originally implied that clean computers would mean an end to the whole business.
    Next morning, there's a knock at the door. I'm feeding the baby so Keiron goes to answer. The arresting officer hands over our computers wrapped in plastic. When we unwrap mine, we see that the screen has been broken.
    I am beside myself. This is a £2,000 computer, the one I do all my work on and the most valuable thing we own. We have almost no income at the moment. And we haven't done anything wrong. Seeing how angry I am with him for not checking the computer, Keiron breaks down for the first time throughout this whole ordeal. I feel terrible.
    Next day, the arresting officer calls to apologise and says the police will pay for repairs. We now have a further 21 days to wait until Keiron's bail to return to the police station. That's another three weeks during which he is not allowed to spend time unsupervised with Sam, our now four-month-old son.
    Another three weeks during which he cannot do his job, nor I mine.
    Three weeks before Christmas
    The end is in sight and we can almost touch it. From next week we can start to reconfigure our lives. Then, a phone call. Keiron is told that his bail is being extended a further three months to give them more time to gather evidence. It is Day One all over again, and I am devastated. Sam, now four and half months old, will have lived half his life without being allowed to be alone with his dad.
    Our solicitor says we can request a change in bail conditions so that Keiron can be unsupervised with our child. With relief, we manage this just in time for Christmas.
    Christmas
    We get through Christmas and our family are wonderfully supportive. Keiron is subdued and I suspect it's because he worries about what they are all thinking. My brother and two young nephews come and stay. I love watching them play with Keiron as they get on like a house on fire, but I have to keep reminding myself that this lovely scene is somehow wrong and that they can't be left alone in a room together.
    January
    On Saturday at 9am, Keiron gets a phone call. I am out with Sam and receive a text. The police have called to say they have no evidence, so the case is dropped.
    I thought I would feel relieved when this news came through. This was to be our happy ending. Instead, my overwhelming response is anger. No evidence? Why have our lives been put on hold for three months for no evidence? Why have our son's first few months of life been so horribly tainted for no evidence? Why has Keiron had to quit his new job for no evidence?
    We go for dinner to "celebrate". Keiron is morose and says it doesn't make any difference to him. Next week, he could just as easily be accused of murder.
    On the news it says that children's charities want to make it easier for allegations to be heard. Of course, I understand why, but I also fear that more innocent families could be hurt because of a string of celebrity paedophile accusations. I hope balance is found.
    Two weeks later
    Keiron comes home in tears. He has been sober for seven years, now he says he has an overwhelming urge to go out and get hammered. He feels ashamed, hopeless, angry and unsafe. All the emotions that had been suppressed while he was under su ion are coming to the surface. He has been out running a lot, but it's not enough. He feels too vulnerable to go back to childcare. Who would hire a male nanny with suspected child abuse on his record? While he establishes a new career, our savings are dwindling fast. Because of a wrong accusation, our lives can never be the same ever again. Our happy ending still feels a long way away.

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    Done with the NBA
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    ty thread in the middle of the playoffs tbh

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