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2/10. Manu was the only one trying tonight
Everyone else tries to play as a unit except Ginobili who is allowed to do the most boneheaded things. When he drives, he does much better, but he continues to throw up threes without distributing the ball. The Spurs way is to go inside and kick it out, Ginobili throws all that out the window. Its playing lazy and scared.
Its madness that in crunch time GS out patienced us and out disciplined us.
2/10. Manu was the only one trying tonight
uh?
End of regulation:
Duncan Turnaround Bank shot: Missed 03:05
Duncan Turnaround Fadeaway shot: Missed 02:09
Parker Pullup Jump shot: Missed 01:54
Duncan Turnaround Hook Shot: Missed Block: Bogut (1 BLK) 01:16
Duncan Jump Shot: Missed 01:12
Parker Pullup Jump shot: Made (17 PTS) 00:39.2
Ginobili 3pt Shot: Missed 00:20.9
OT:
Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed 04:24
Ginobili 3pt Shot: Missed 04:05
Leonard 3pt Shot: Missed 03:22
Green Free Throw 1 of 2 Missed 03:21
Green Free Throw 2 of 2 Missed 03:21
Parker 3pt Shot: Missed 03:12
Leonard Layup Shot: Missed 03:10
Leonard Turnover : Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal:Thompson (3 ST) 03:06
Green 3pt Shot: Missed 02:03
Green 3pt Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (3 AST) 01:29
Green 3pt Shot: Missed 00:58.9
Duncan Jump Bank Hook Shot: Missed 00:46.9
Im not talking about missing shots, that happens. Im talking about not playing smart basketball. Dribbling up the court and throwing up a three pointer is anti team and anti patience and discipline. Its not believing in the team.
Ginobili will always have the green light, to shoot, and facilitate the offense. Its his role. You take the good with the bad.
Yes, he gets a free pass and is never criticized, especially not on this forum.
This thread is the troof.
because he is Manu Ginobili
yah... nothing says selfish, low-basketball IQ like Manu Ginobili...
Was he open when he shot? Would you be ing if he made the same shots?
Players are not some type of machines that make every single shot. They will make tough shots and miss easy shots at times. That's why they play the game.
These guys are experienced enough to know what they did right and what they did wrong. I trust them to fix whatever mistakes they made in Game 5 and come out with a W.
I think the Spurs are still in excellent shape. They have found ways to neutralize and contain Curry and Thompson.
All the Spurs need to do is make their shots. They missed too many uncontested shots. They simply need to make them.
No one can doubt his pedigree, spirit, IQ or any of the sort
He has simply fallen in love with his jumpshot
Sadly its the least dependable part of his game as of late & more times than not it bails out defenders
Ex. Barnes falls, a simple give n go puts Manu at the rim wit Bogut outside the paint or trailing by a few steps at best
But...CLANG!
I get that you're being sarcastic, but honestly Manu has as many boneheaded plays in his career as anyone else who has played for the Spurs during that time. Manu makes some of the greatest plays, but he also makes some of the dumbest plays because he believes he's so good. Its a net positive, but Manu isn't the highest IQ player on the court that you're making him out to be by any stretch.
With Manu you take risks, if it goes in you all jack off to it if it doesn't you on him. After all the years it's funny how you still haven't accepted Manu as Manu tbh.
you, sir, are an idiot. Manu doesnt do the things he does because he thinks he's so good, he does it because it's best for the team. Sometimes it doesn't pan out and his body doesn't allow him to do certain things he used to do anymore, but to say he has low basketball IQ and is selfish is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. Those are complete antonyms of his play
Look , you're calling me an idiot for I didn't even say. If your illiterate ass could read, you might notice I never said he had a low basketball IQ. You might also see I never called him selfish. I said that Manu makes stupid plays and no one here is going to deny that. You want prime example number one? 2006, Manu goes up to block Dirk when the Spurs are up 3 and ends up fouling him. The SMART high IQ basketball play in that situation that is good for the team is to let Dirk go and NOT foul him and allow the Mavericks to tie.
Regardless of what you think about Ginobili's game, I don't think you can argue that he gets a free pass..
The majority of the posters here have been ting on him all year, tbh..
I think its different now than it used to be because now he just expects it to happen instead of willing it to happen. He jus wants the magic Manu to magically appear to take away these scary Warriors instead of outwilling and outbelieving them.
Spurs fans have to imprint this in their minds, Manu is Manu. You win with him, you die with him. Although it's pathetic that we heavily rely our Championship hopes on a dude who's in his mid 30's, that's just the sad reality.
I would agree that he takes some risks that other players don't take, and when those risks don't pay off they're ugly as . Conversely, when they do pay off, they're amazing plays.
But associating Manu, the ultimate team player, with anti-team or not playing 'smart basketball', is just well... I don't know what to tell you. This is a guy that never had the out-of-this-world athleticism of Lebron, the height of Duncan, the speed of Parker, the smooth jumper of Kobe... He's heading to the HoF because he made himself a winner by doing things out of the box, with absolute smarts, grit, and by making players around him better. If that's not the epitome of a high basketball IQ player, somebody tell me what it is.
Manu played hard tonight and was huge in the first half. I don't know why people expect a 36 year old, injury-prone SG who's 8 years past his prime to play like he's Durant or something.
I get the hate. Dude has been on the decline, and that's undeniable. Some people want Manu to at least score 20 every night, and he's not there anymore. He had a complete game tonight... 4 boards, 3 steals, 2 blocks... he'll do other things to try to help the win. But people don't remember we were in position to win this game thanks to his four 3-pointers, they just remember the one he missed at the end of the game.Regardless of what you think about Ginobili's game, I don't think you can argue that he gets a free pass
The majority of the posters here have been ting on him all year, tbh..
Lets get one thing straight dumbass Spurs did not lose this game because of Manu
Manu has been very athletically gifted. He's not exactly someone who's had to overcome athletic short comings to say that he's somehow special for not being the fastest or tallest is ridiculous. The one huge shortcoming he's had to overcome is due to how bad a beating his body takes his inability to play as many minutes as other players but he's always been one of the most athletic Spurs. He definitely has lot of grit and fight as well. No one will ever question Manu's heart. He's also definitely a team player. Manu loves to pass the ball and no one will deny that.
But he's not nearly as smart as people here love to give him credit for. Manu makes stupid plays and Manu makes a lot of stupid plays. Sometimes they work and you may not recognize them as a stupid play but they are because the results were good but that doesn't. I'm not saying Manu is stupid or even a low IQ basketball player. He's probably a bit above average. But high IQ basketball players don't make the decisions Manu does on a regular basis.
i just want to know if there is a player in this whole league that parker can guard one on one, cuz i've yet to see one in all of his years of playing.
Manu is a top 5 Spur of all time and he's a great player. He definitely got a free pass in the past but thats no longer the case. I just don't think he's the smartest (basketball IQ wise) player on the Spurs. Tim Duncan is.
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