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Yeah I'm going to re watch the 4th quarter later tonight to see if it was more about the Grizz or the Spurs
http://nba.si.com/2013/05/22/dont-be...urs-in-game-2/
Nice article to confirm with videos what some here are saying.
While the Grizzlies's adjustments helped (more Pondexter and Bayless), the comeback was mainly on Duncan foul trouble and Spurs not hitting open shots
Yeah I'm going to re watch the 4th quarter later tonight to see if it was more about the Grizz or the Spurs
Spurs were shooting over 50% in the 3rd, shot under 25% in the 4th.
Spurs did lose 3rd and 4th quarters, 39 - 54, ugh.
Stopping moving the ball and being exhausted will do that.
The 3rd quarter was bad on defense (due to all the FTs the Grizzlies shot), but the Spurs only lost 3 points off of a 15-point halftime lead. Obv the 4th was far more worrying.
Three fouls in 29 seconds on Duncan was all it took.
That kind of backfired on the Grizzlies, though. Timmy was on the bench for quite a while in the second half, so he had fresh legs going into OT.
That turned out to be the difference in the end.
I wonder how Popovich will set minutes for game 3. Ball was moving well, Parker was outstanding, but it costs him and whole team a lot of energy. And obviously Parker`s calf isnt 100%, so he shouldnt be playing so many high intensity minutes. Time for Manu to step up.
I wish Mahoney hadn't written this tbh. I could definitely see Hollins taking the comeback as "All is Well!" and not adjusting much for game 3, only to see Duncan actually stay on the floor and the Spurs hitting shots they usually hit.
Memphis was in the bonus for 15 out of the last 24 minutes of regulation, that makes comebacks real simple
That last 2 minutes was an abomination.
To me, the breakdown train started when Tim went for a wide-open tip off a TP missed shot. He missed the tip completely but what he should have done was simply corral the rebound and then just run more clock.
While they keep saying 15-2 run, the real damage was done when Randolph, with his clear out elbows, was awarded the And 1 basket which was followed by the not-flagrant FLAGRANT foul that gifted Tony Allen 2 FTs, and then the extra possession, which then got Conley the inside jump shot. That right there was 7 points in less than 30 seconds. The bulk of that probably doesn't happen if the Spurs execute smartly. But seriously, those 7 points were a gift from those refs IMO.
Give an NBA coach some credit, even the worst coach wouldn't be getting their ideas from sports articles...
What I don't understand is why people think that starting Pondexter and Bayless won't have serious ramifications to the Grizzlies defense. I mean, Allen and Prince are by FAR their best defenders out on the wings, and their 2nd and 3rd best defenders, respectively. Which means that now they are fielding a team consisting of 1 excellent defender (Gasol), one decent/good defender (Conley) two unproven guys who don't appear to play any defense and aren't used to starting rotations or offenses, and ZBo, who has been an absolute traffic cone in this series for Parker.
I think Spurs fans everywhere should be ecstatic. We're only two games into the series, and already Hollins has completely changed his team chemistry, the one that won 55+ games in the regular season. He's trying to play OUR game. So far we've been better on both ends of the ball and destroying his vaunted defense, now he's sacrificing most of his defensive prowess in favor of offense? That's the best news of the Conference Finals yet. Now instead of bursting off the bench with fresh legs, their gunners are going to be starting the game running headlong into our best defensive 5. Parker has been more than fine against Conley, and Green and Kawhi will be draped all over Pondexter and Bayless.
Not to mention the fact that neither of the latter are used to getting burn with starter minutes.
Think about it: We're going into the Grindhouse against the best defensive team in the league and they have already abandoned their hyper-defensive team to score more points. I could NOT think of a better scenario heading into game 3, and I sincerely hope that Pondexter, Conley, and Bayless get it in their heads that they want to turn this game into a track meet against our transition defense and laser passing. If they seriously think it's a good idea, we could be up 25 at half.
Great points all around. I also think swapping out their bench for starters will seriously backfire for a host of reasons. Hope to Hollins tries this.
not to mention the sudden surge of calls that went the grizzlies way and the impact the calls had on the tempo of the game. from that point forward the spurs seemed to lose their rhythm. parker was also gassed and leonard seemed to lack any explosion. grizz have to contend with a more rested spurs come saturday evening. they can only hope they get to enjoy a similar free throw disparity that evening as well.
Prince is overrated on D, don't think Pondexter will be a major drop-off. But Allen's D will be missed if he is replaced by Bayless
Prince wasn't exactly a scoring champion in his prime days, now? yikes....
I largely agree with the article. Memphis has been annihilated in this series so far. Their defense especially has been disappointing for them, allowing an inexcusable amount of wide open shots. The spurs haven't really had a transcendent offensive performance, they've just flummoxed the Memphis defense. I think the grizzlies are in big trouble.
With that said, Prince has been awful in every aspect of the game and Quincy Pondexter should obsolutely replace him next game. Tony Allen however should (and probably will) retain his starting spot. These changes will give Memphis a lot better offensive spacing and would not really hurt their defense either. Regardless, I think it's ultimately moot because SA is just a much better team and matches up well with Memphis now to boot.
I must say, I fully agree with PC Boy here. Mem trying to play offense with us will spell their doom.
However, I can't see Hollins changing stripes. Maybe he starts them, hangs with us first 8 mins or so, then goes straight defense the rest of the game with fresh Prince (not intended) and Allen. Considering how tired Spurs are at the end of every game, his defensive lineup will be fresher, and ready to hold us to a similar 9 fourth quarter points.
Essentially I'm saying i think Lionel starts those two but they end up getting roughly the same number of minutes, just at a different time in the game.
that vaunted memphis defense has shown me nothing so far and hollins might be thinking of the same thing. i don't think he has any idea how to slow down the spurs offense. i think everyone noticed how the spurs went away from the drive-and-kick offense of game 1 coz pop knew the grizzlies would have prepared for it.
running against the spurs who likes to push the tempo... that's a good idea.
Yep. Grizz' offense sucked all series so far except when refs put on their capes and called 3 fouls on Duncan in 30 seconds, then another a minute after he got back into the game, forcing him to sit most of the 2nd half.
Duncan has been our key defensive player by FAR all series. The Grizzlies have not figured him/the Spurs out yet except to flop repeatedly (which they have been doing) and hope the refs will bail them out and make Duncan sit.
Nah not really. It allowed them to get it to OT. . .getting a chance to win that game was a rousing success for them even though they lost. They were enroute to another blowout otherwise. Don't forget they also called Duncan's 5th foul somethin like 63 seconds after he entered the game in the 4th too, making him sit again.
They barely had to play against Duncan in the 2nd half at all until the final 8 minutes (including OT) where Duncan had to be very careful when defending otherwise he was gone. The only good quarter they had offensively all series was the 3rd when the refs completely took over for them.
Spurs score 35 in first quarter in Memphis.
Best stat from the article:
the Spurs’ defense swung by roughly 50 points per 100 possessions when Duncan was on the floor (65.2 points allowed per 100 possessions) compared with when the 37-year-old was off (116.3) in Game 2
Memphis will try anything at this point, Hollins was calling for Memphis to give him everything they had in the 1st half of game 2. They know they're overmatched and they're looking for anything. Memphis simply can't score enough points consistently to be a team to fear.
This is the reason I disagree with Timvp's grading in another thread. In a couple games against Dubs, you don't feel the difference when Timmy was on/off the court. Last night, the whole vibe of the game changed when Timmy left the court. Against a Grizzlies team centered their offense on two big men, Timmy is the key to everything.
Everyone likes to talk about how good the Grizzlies' defense is, but the Spurs were barely behind them in the defensive rankings. The Spurs have an elite defense too, and it has shown against the Grizzlies' middling offense.
Also, the Warriors controlled all but 4 minutes of the first two games last round, and see where it got them. I want to see the Spurs go for the damn jugular in game 3.
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