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    ex Hornets78 Pelicans78's Avatar
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    I'm expecting the Saints to bounce back this season. Payton is back and refreshed. He lost a lot of weight, got in great shape. New DC Rob Ryan is overhauling last year's disasterous performance from Spags and company. They've signed some new guys on defense to help out like CB Keenan Lewis, Victor Butler, drafted that safety Vaccaro from Texas. They're going from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Offense should be the same and hopefully more efficient with Payton back.

    Here's the questions I have.

    1. Can they win the NFC South? It won't be easy with the Falcons and possibly improved Panthers and Bucs.

    2. How much will their defense improve in the new 3-4? I'm skeptical on Ryan. His defenses were underachieving in Big D.

    3. Can their offense remain as a top 5 offense? I would think so, but left tackle is a question mark. I don't miss Bushrod. He was average, but Charles Brown is unproven and injury prone.

    4. Will the Saints have a bounty on that asshole Matty Ice in week one and if so how much? Also should they put a bounty on cheap shotting their head coach who acts like he's having an ulcer after every play? I say yes, $100K, and yes.

    5. $200K for Cam Newton's knee? yes

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    We've got a job to do. Darth_Pelican's Avatar
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    I'm excited about the season. The home game to open the season vs. Atlanta is going to set the tone. If we win, I think we go 12-4 or 11-5 and win the division. If we lose, I think we go 9-7 or 8-8 and miss the playoffs.

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    Why do people say Rob Ryan's defense underachieved in Dallas? Last year he made them a middle of the pack defense in spite of a bevvy of injuries and him having to start guys signed off the street.

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    can't wait to see how the Classless Assholes try to cheat the system this year.

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    The Saints will win the division. They are easily the best team among those 4. The Falcons needed the Madden Curse and Sean Payton suspended to win the division those years with Tony Romo's equal at the helm. Tampa has no qb and are trying to build via free agency while the Panthers aren't doing with Cam at the helm.

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    Why do people say Rob Ryan's defense underachieved in Dallas? Last year he made them a middle of the pack defense in spite of a bevvy of injuries and him having to start guys signed off the street.
    That's true. I guess I just looked at their overall rankings. He'll be an upgrade for sure over Spags, but I'm worried he will be alot like Gregg Williams. I know Williams was a big part of their Super Bowl win, but he also was the main reason for the loss at San Francisco in 2011. His play-calling cost them a chance to host the NFC Championship.

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    can't wait to see how the Classless Assholes try to cheat the system this year.
    Oh look who shows up. Mention the Saints and here he is.

    I did miss you btw.

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    The Saints will win the division. They are easily the best team among those 4. The Falcons needed the Madden Curse and Sean Payton suspended to win the division those years with Tony Romo's equal at the helm. Tampa has no qb and are trying to build via free agency while the Panthers aren't doing with Cam at the helm.
    I hope you're right man. They always have the Falcons numbers, but the schedule seems tough this year. They need to come out on top in week 1 by blasting the Falcons at home. That game could set the tone for the season.

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    What was the saints record vs black qbs last year?

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    What was the saints record vs black qbs last year?
    3-4

    Beat Freeman twice and Vick, lost to Newton twice, RGIII, and Kaepernick.

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    IMO that's a number that has to improve for the saints to have a good season. Can't keep losing to n!ggers

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    The Saints are the most talented team in their division. They have one of the best coach/QB tandems in the league, a solid O line and receiving corp. Second ranked O in the league, so they can give up 21 and still win, averaged 28 last year. Not sold on Atlanta.

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    Atlanta will never have a better shot than they did last year. All downhill for them imo

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    Why do people say Rob Ryan's defense underachieved in Dallas? Last year he made them a middle of the pack defense in spite of a bevvy of injuries and him having to start guys signed off the street.
    Depends on their d-line I guess, Dallas ended up getting gashed a lot partly b/c of injuries. He will probably be much better the next year.

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    Atlanta will never have a better shot than they did last year. All downhill for them imo
    Agreed. I think their offense might be elite this year w/ Jackson adding a new dimension but their D is gonna go downhill. Going from Abraham to Osi is a downgrade (maybe they can pick Abraham up again since he's still unsigned) and they're thin at corner.

    That being said IMO the NFC South is still their division to lose. New Orleans is probably gonna take a year to adjust to the 3-4 (granted there's no way that D can be as bad as it was last year), while the Panthers and Bucs are both wildcards.
    Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE; 06-01-2013 at 09:57 AM.

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    The Saints WILL have a good season. Well I hope so anyway. Good coach, good QB (although some part of me still wishes he never recovered fully from his injury (also known as jealousy ). After the awful start they kinda bounced back and I expect them to build on that.

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    We've got a job to do. Darth_Pelican's Avatar
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    Just got the mail today... Christmas in July!



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    Saints gonna go 23-0

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    Bucs winning this division tbh

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    Bucs winning this division tbh
    Rather see them win than the Falcons or even the Panthers, but I don't see Newton being consistent enough right now. The Bucs are an interesting team and will be compe ive but Freeman hasn't showed enough consistency either.

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    Rather see them win than the Falcons or even the Panthers, but I don't see Newton being consistent enough right now. The Bucs are an interesting team and will be compe ive but Freeman hasn't showed enough consistency either.
    I like your Saints too..but every year there seems to be a surprise division winner and the Bucs is my team this year. Revis, Goldson, Barron, David, Mason, Mccoy and even Banks all on D. That's a lot of talent. Good Oline, very good RB, and two very good WR's. You're right it's all on Freeman who hasn't been consistent.

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    I like your Saints too..but every year there seems to be a surprise division winner and the Bucs is my team this year. Revis, Goldson, Barron, David, Mason, Mccoy and even Banks all on D. That's a lot of talent. Good Oline, very good RB, and two very good WR's. You're right it's all on Freeman who hasn't been consistent.
    The Bucs are the perfect example of a failed front office. They are spending big in free agency which is a terrible route to go. The Revis trade was beyond re ed. They also have at QB. Tampa isn't winning that division. Teams who constantly spend big in free agency will ALWAYS fail in the NFL. Again, @ trading picks and giving a massive contract for a ing cornerback coming off a torn ACL.

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    The Saints are winning that division. The Falcons D will be pretty bad. Osi doesn't have Tuck/JPP to make life easier this time around. Brees/Peyton will be back in sync and that D could show something this season. They have a huge edge at QB, head coach, and possibly even D. I really expect the Saints to return to being an NFC threat this season.

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    The Bucs are the perfect example of a failed front office. They are spending big in free agency which is a terrible route to go. The Revis trade was beyond re ed. They also have at QB. Tampa isn't winning that division. Teams who constantly spend big in free agency will ALWAYS fail in the NFL. Again, @ trading picks and giving a massive contract for a ing cornerback coming off a torn ACL.
    He's not just a " ing" cornerback...he's the best non pass rushing defensive player in the game if he's healthy. Trading the 13th pick in a weak-ish draft for a guy who has the ability to shut down half the field is worth the risk.

    Freeman isn't either...he's not been great outside of 2010 but his 4 four years in the league have definitely been better than Eli's who won a SB around that time (not suggesting the Bucs will.)

    They might have spent big on free agency, but they are still built on the draft. Freeman, Martin, Williams, Clayborn, Mccoy, David, Mason, Barron etc were all drafted. Also, it's not like Vjax and Nicks didn't work out for them...Nicks is an elite guard who just got injured, and Jackson put up nearly 1,400 yards. If you're betting that signing REVIS of all people isn't a good idea..I think that's a mistake.

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    The Saints are winning that division. The Falcons D will be pretty bad. Osi doesn't have Tuck/JPP to make life easier this time around. Brees/Peyton will be back in sync and that D could show something this season. They have a huge edge at QB, head coach, and possibly even D. I really expect the Saints to return to being an NFC threat this season.
    I hope you're right. I expect the offense to be elite and efficient with Payton back. Less turnovers, better running game, less penalties.

    The defense still worries me. It won't be as bad as last season's and the talent has been upgraded a bit, but I'm not convinced it will be an average defense. Still, I think it should be good enough to win the division. Not that impressed with Atlanta and not sure if Carolina will take the next step. I will be really disappointed if the Saints don't win the division.

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