Whats the lastest on Larry Brown?

[rayray2k8]

Does anybody know? i guess this will be the thread that lets us all know if brown will continue to coach to the pisons or move on somewhere else.
all i know that brown will me with the piston owner bill davis (think thats his name) and thats about it..

[temple.of.the.dog]

Brown and Pistons meet _ and agree to talk again

DETROIT -- Larry Brown had a face-to-face meeting with the Detroit Pistons for the first time this month, and his future is still not resolved.

Brown, his agent, team owner Bill Davidson and president of basketball operations Joe Dumars got together Wednesday morning, and decided they need to talk again.

"The four of them had an open discussion," Pistons spokesman Matt Dobek said. "They decided that both sides have a clearer understanding of the situation and decided to discuss this again Thursday via phone."

Brown's agent, Joe Glass, and Dumars have spoken at least twice since the Hall of Fame coach checked out of a hospital almost two weeks ago. Brown had been resting, on doctor's orders, at his vacation home in New York before flying to his home in suburban Detroit on Wednesday.

The morning after the NBA draft, Brown was hospitalized for two days to address a medical problem that developed from complications following hip surgery in November and didn't go away after a second procedure in March.

The 64-year-old Brown has said if doctors deem him healthy enough, he wants to return next season to Detroit -- and insists he will not coach another NBA team. The Pistons have said they would welcome Brown back, if he's willing to return.

Brown has declined, during two interviews with The Associated Press, to say whether he would want to continue coaching if the medical problem persists.

Last year, Brown became the first coach to win NBA and NCAA championships. He won the college le with Kansas in 1988.

The Pistons came up short in their bid to repeat this season, losing to San Antonio in Game 7 of the NBA Finals last month.

Brown signed a five-year contract worth about $25 million, plus incentive bonuses, two years ago.

[WayDowntownBang]

This is starting to get embarassing on the national scene from the Detroit perspective.

[lil'mo]

lol

he should mooooove on.

[Bandit2981]

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Larry Brown is hanging tough in Detroit, trying to get fired Costanza-style so he can collect the remaining $15 million. Maybe he can drag Bill Davidson’s Stanley Cup trophy from the Lightning around the Pistons parking lot while shouting insults from a megaphone. Or possibly taking the old man’s clapper away. Or smashing his reading glasses and dentures. Anything, anything to get fired. Now, let me ask you this. If Allen Iverson were pouting and scheming to get out of Philly (i.e. to get traded, not fired) with 3 years left on his contract. And if Iverson had been taking phone calls from another team during a playoff run to the Finals. If all that happens, how BADLY is Iverson getting CRUSHED by the media? And Larry always talks about how you have to do the “right things” and “play the game the right way.” Yeah, whatever carpetbagger. I’m tired of this guy, and tired of the Larryworship. He’s a nice coach, but it’s a players league. Period.

[SpursChampsIII]

On the surface, this looks like the issue is a contract buyout. I like Larry Brown and I think he is one of the brilliant basketball minds of our time, but this dude needs to step down and enjoy the rest of his life. He's had a long run and he's pretty much done it all.

[Dex]

I'm sorry, but nobody deserves to get paid for a job they are not doing, contract or no contract.

If Larry Brown wants to leave, he needs to leave that money on the table.

[ALVAREZ6]

When the is the dude gonna make his decision???

I'm hoping he leaves so Delfino doesn't go to Europe...lol I want to see if he can improve his game, and maybe get some more minutes.

[timvp]

LB is a lil' biotch. That's the thing I hated about the Pistons winning the championship last season. It gave the guy with the largest ego in the league even more reason to love himself.

LB is trying to piss off the Pistons to the point that they fire him ... pretty ironic for a guy with a "debilitating" bladder condition.

[Chris]

He had a hip replacement or hip surgery which caused him to miss 18 games during the regular season for the Pistons. During game 5 of the finals he said something to the effect of -if his condition does not improve, he will not be coaching AT ALL next year. It's too bad the league has to lose one of the greatest coaches of all time.

[samikeyp]

Joe D needs to show him the door.

[timvp]

He had a hip replacement or hip surgery which caused him to miss 18 games during the regular season for the Pistons. During game 5 of the finals he said something to the effect of -if his condition does not improve, he will not be coaching AT ALL next year. It's too bad the league has to lose one of the greatest coaches of all time.

Don't buy the hype.

[Pistons < Spurs]

LB is a lil' biotch. That's the thing I hated about the Pistons winning the championship last season. It gave the guy with the largest ego in the league even more reason to love himself.

LB is trying to piss off the Pistons to the point that they fire him ... pretty ironic for a guy with a "debilitating" bladder condition.

Yeah, I don't think I could have said it any better.

LB is the biggest ego driven drama queen in the league. He's started this "if they'll have me back" BS a couple of weeks ago. Then Davidson...god I love him..said this: ""When did this become us not [bleepin'] wanting him?" steamed the owner to the team's top officials."

This whole mess is ridiculious. LB is forcing this issue onto the Pistons orginization, while it's all him. He is the one who has the health issue. He is the one allowing rumors about New York run through the media. He is the one who allowed his agent to discuss options during the playoff run.
I do believe he is looking for us to fire him. And I hope we do it. I'm sick of it.

Yes LB is a great coach. But IMO he gets a little more credit than he deserves. Many people may not agree with me, but I argue that Carlisle would have won us a championship if he was still with the team, and we had Sheed.

LB has long been known to not play Rooks(or Euros). On some level, I can understand this.......but his constant rigidity and inflexibility is more detremental to his teams than ppl realize. They assume that LB is a great coach, so whatever he does is correct, and in the mold of playing "the right way". He didn't play Memo. Doesn't play Darko. Doesn't play Delfino or Dupree. I am a realist, and understand that these guys are not "great" players....but they do deserve SOME playing time. If for no other reason than to give our starters (our 5 played more minutes than any other 5 in the L) a rest.

I'm just tired of him. Next year I can see the interviews where he says he really wished he was part of the Cleveland orginization..... It's time for him to go. We need to move on. I definelty do not wish to go through all of this next postseason aswell. Give me Silas...give me Flip....give me Izzo. I don't really care who. I truly believe that our group of guys understand what they have to do to make it back to the finals...with or without Brown.

OK, I'm done ranting

[exstatic]

What's the latest on LB? What it always is. He's out looking for his next future ex employer. The guy's behavior this year was beyond shameful.

[mavsfan1000]

Larry Brown might be ego driven coach but most of the best coaches are a little like that. They will not be the same team without Larry Brown. He got the best out of that team without any superstars.

[ShoogarBear]

Here's another viewpoint which I completely disagree with. I'm pretty sure that a month ago I thought Jason Whitlock was a decent sportswriter. Now, at least when it comes to the NBA, he consistently has some of the dumbest takes ever.

Maybe some of this is true, and I give him credit for having something different to say, but his incredible bias and logical gaps are irritating:

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DISLOYALTY RUNS DEEP IN DETROIT

By Jason Whitlock
Special to Page 2


To appreciate this column, you're going to have to first acknowledge you've been misled about what's really been transpiring between the Detroit Pistons and Larry Brown.

You think this sorry soap opera is another tale about Brown's wanderlust and double-dealing. Maybe you think it's a riff about his ailing body.

You're wrong.

Larry's history has played a role in this mess. But to understand how a team with back-to-back Finals appearances is likely to be playing next season for its third coach in four years, the truly enlightening factor is the Pistons' history.

Pistons owner Bill Davidson, former Pistons president and current Palace of Auburn Hills president Tom Wilson, Pistons spokesman Matt Dobek and Pistons president Joe Dumars have so many media members (not all of them, but enough) in their hip pockets that I can't really blame you for being confused.

You've read the stories they've wanted you to read.


Larry Brown isn't loyal.

Larry Brown is a gigantic distraction.

Larry Brown's players don't believe in him.

Larry Brown wants to coach in New York.

Larry Brown wants to lead the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Well, today I'm going to share the other side of those stories, the side that Davidson, Wilson, Dobek and Dumars don't want you to read.

Larry Brown didn't ask me to share it. In fact, when I reached Brown Wednesday afternoon, he wouldn't discuss anything with me, on or off the record. Heck, the story I'm about to share is one Larry probably knows little about. He might even disagree with it.

Davidson and his right-hand man, Wilson, might be the most hypocritical, back-stabbing executives in all of sports. They could tutor Al Davis.


Brown isn't the first (or last) Pistons employee Davidson and Wilson have tossed under the bus once they've squeezed what they've wanted from him. Ask Isiah Thomas. Or Chuck Daly. Or Don Chaney. Or Rick Carlisle. Or Doug Collins. Or Jack McCloskey.

You think it's unethical or disloyal for Brown's agent to explore a management position in Cleveland while the Pistons are in the playoffs? You think Bill Davidson was justifiably offended?

Well, then, do you think it was unethical or disloyal for the Pistons to sew up a deal with Brown to replace Carlisle while the Pistons were wrapping up the 2003 regular season and playoffs? (WHAT THE ?? WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT LARRY BROWN'S ETHICS AND LOYALTY?? Especially since Brown then lied about it after he was hired.)

Do some homework. Find out how Chuck Daly felt when Mr. D(avidson) hired Ron Rothstein as a radio color commentator during Daly's last season. Daly, who delivered two championships to Detroit, spent his final year on the Pistons' bench with his successor (Rothstein) looking over his shoulder and second-guessing him over the airwaves.

Oh, yeah, Mr. D and Wilson are all class. They demand loyalty and give none.

For weeks, we've heard constant reports about how Mr. D was "put off" that Brown flirted with Cleveland and spoke glowingly of his hometown Knicks. People reported these stories like they were some sort of crime against humanity.

If it was a crime, what kind of felony is it for an organization to make a habit of picking a coaching successor long before the end of the season when the coach in place hasn't yet been dismissed? The latest: Flip Saunders' name began to circulate among Pistons media puppets in February.

Around that same time, Wilson and Dobek began their assault on Brown's shaky reputation, trashing Brown to members of the media who couldn't wait to show how tough they are by beating up on a short-time employee.

A veteran Pistons reporter told me that when Wilson was president of the Pistons, Chaney and Collins suffered through similar assaults just before they were let go by sweet Mr. D. It was during this time that Detroit reporters tagged Wilson with the nickname "Teflon Tom" for his ability to avoid blame whenever the Pistons had to scrap one of his failed plans.

How did Teflon Tom become Mr. D's right-hand man? He oversaw the end of Mr. D's relationship with the greatest Piston of all time, Isiah "Zeke" Thomas.

Thomas was supposed to be a Piston for life. Late in Isiah's final season, the Pistons even held a Piston-for-life press conference for the man most responsible for Detroit's first two championships and the construction of The Palace. Isiah was supposed to get the kind of deal Magic Johnson has with the Lakers -- a piece of the organization, a fancy le and a fat check.

But guess who just happened to run into public-relations problems just before the deal was complete? And guess who benefited?


Zeke and Teflon Tom.

Yep, nasty rumors about Isiah, gambling and unsavory characters, as well as a premature leak of the news that Isiah was to be named president of the Pistons, "offended" Mr. D and ended their fairy-tale, father-son relationship.

Isiah was tossed out of the Pistons family, and Teflon Tom became president of the Pistons and The Palace. His official reign over the franchise ended when Dumars became the club's top executive. Wilson now operates from the shadows, but he and his flunkies are still highly effective.

Just ask Larry Brown.

[Sense]

lastest....

[Spursdaone]

I don't think anyone knows what the lastest of Larry Brown. They might know the latest though.

[CubanMustGo]

AP story just out:

With only the slightest of hedges, Larry Brown said Thursday he's "confident" the Detroit Pistons will bring him back as their head coach for the 2005-06 season.

"I'm confident I'll be back, but you never know," Brown told The Associated Press. "Whatever happens will be for the best of the franchise, and that's the important thing."

Brown's agent, Joe Glass, and team president Joe Dumars spoke by telephone Thursday, a day after Brown had a sit-down meeting with Glass, Dumars and team owner Bill Davidson.

Brown again described the meeting as positive, saying he was relieved to have an opportunity to address numerous issues with Davidson. Among the topics were Brown's health, and how the team might respond if Brown is again forced to miss time as he did last season when Gar Heard guided the team for 17 games while Brown underwent surgery.

Click "AP Story" above for more (link to ESPN.com)