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    NEW: Spurs to sign Argentinian center
    Web Posted: 07/14/2005 04:45 PM CDT

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    Johnny Ludden
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    Unwilling to wait any longer for Argentine forward Luis Scola to arrange a buyout agreement with his Spanish team, the Spurs have decided to sign one of his countrymen instead.

    Fabricio Oberto, the starting center on Argentina’s national team and one of Manu Ginobili’s best friends, has reached an agreement in principle with the Spurs on a three-year contract.

    Players can’t officially sign contracts until the NBA’s new collective bargaining agreement is completed. The league has set July 22 as a target date for lifting its signing moratorium.

    For more details on Oberto, including the terms of his contract, pick up Friday’s San Antonio Express-News.

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    I made this a separate thread because people were doubting Chad Ford's conclusions regarding Scola in the other thread. Ludden is close with the Spurs, and probably got this info first hand.

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    Interesting.

    Scola messed up by signing that contract. If he isn't willing to take a hit financially to get his foot into the door, then he's going to have to wait.

    Tough ish, but Spurs have to run a business. You can't give big money to a player who has never stepped onto an NBA floor ... especially an undersized one.

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    I wonder if this is Scola's fault or Scola's team's fault for the delays.

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    NEW: Spurs to sign Argentinian center
    Web Posted: 07/14/2005 04:45 PM CDT

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b....a7482d7b.html

    Johnny Ludden
    Express-News Staff Writer

    Unwilling to wait any longer for Argentine forward Luis Scola to arrange a buyout agreement with his Spanish team, the Spurs have decided to sign one of his countrymen instead.

    Fabricio Oberto, the starting center on Argentina’s national team and one of Manu Ginobili’s best friends, has reached an agreement in principle with the Spurs on a three-year contract.

    Players can’t officially sign contracts until the NBA’s new collective bargaining agreement is completed. The league has set July 22 as a target date for lifting its signing moratorium.

    For more details on Oberto, including the terms of his contract, pick up Friday’s San Antonio Express-News.
    Coming from Ludden, that would appear to be fairly definitive. I can't imagine he'd lead with that line unless he'd been told that Scola was the hold-up and that this was an either/or proposition.

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    NEW: Spurs to sign Argentinian center
    Web Posted: 07/14/2005 04:45 PM CDT

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b....a7482d7b.html

    Johnny Ludden
    Express-News Staff Writer

    Unwilling to wait any longer for Argentine forward Luis Scola to arrange a buyout agreement with his Spanish team, the Spurs have decided to sign one of his countrymen instead.

    Fabricio Oberto, the starting center on Argentina’s national team and one of Manu Ginobili’s best friends, has reached an agreement in principle with the Spurs on a three-year contract.
    Thanks Manu.


    Players can’t officially sign contracts until the NBA’s new collective bargaining agreement is completed. The league has set July 22 as a target date for lifting its signing moratorium.

    For more details on Oberto, including the terms of his contract, pick up Friday’s San Antonio Express-News.
    Then we should know if they are using the LLE or part of the MLE.

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    oh well...

    I wonder if the Spurs will ever bring Scola over period, and just give his rights to another team.

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    I wonder if this is Scola's fault or Scola's team's fault for the delays.
    If Scola wants to come over, then the fault has to lie with Tau, unless Scola's came was trying to use the buyout to force the Spurs to up their offer.

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    Shame.

    But its looking more and more like the Spurs are not as high on Scola as alot of the scouts around the league and people including myself are.

    Spurs know something.

    Now to take that MLE and move it to a SF signing.

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    I made this a separate thread because people were doubting Chad Ford's conclusions regarding Scola in the other thread. Ludden is close with the Spurs, and probably got this info first hand.


    please tell me more about Oberto. I hope he's a good player. I would hope that we are making a significant improvement to our team, but are we?
    Thank you.

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    Sign Oberto this offseason. Bring in Scola next summer. Have full MLE this offseason to address other needs besides the frontcourt which is already stacked.

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    Thanks Manu.




    Then we should know if they are using the LLE or part of the MLE.
    If it's a 3 year deal it has to be part of the MLE according to the CBA.

    Edit: LLE deals have a max of 2 years.

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    If it's a 3 year deal it has to be part of the MLE according to the CBA.

    Edit: LLE deals have a max of 2 years.
    True. But that could change in the "new" CBA.

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    Shame.

    But its looking more and more like the Spurs are not as high on Scola as alot of the scouts around the league and people including myself are.

    Spurs know something.

    Now to take that MLE and move it to a SF signing.

    They know something?

    How about Luis... you want to play for the Spurs for the minimum and then a bigger deal down the road?

    Ummmmm... I'll get back wit ju.

    Spurs.. ummm... Oberto... sup bro? You down right now? yeah!!

    Luis... adios...

    Not rocket science.

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    True. But that could change in the "new" CBA.
    I researched this during lunch. According to RealGM.com, the exceptions didn't change in the new CBA. It's all in my blog. =)

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    True. But that could change in the "new" CBA.

    I hope so, because if they can't trade Rash, I don't know why you sign this guy if you already have Rasho, Nazr and Horry. We need a long 3 before anything else.

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    They know something?

    How about Luis... you want to play for the Spurs for the minimum and then a bigger deal down the road?

    Ummmmm... I'll get back wit ju.

    Spurs.. ummm... Oberto... sup bro? You down right now? yeah!!

    Luis... adios...

    Not rocket science.
    True, Sequ. Manu signed for the LLE in the beginning and managed to pay his own buyout. So probably the Spurs didn't want Scola as badly as some people believe and/or Scola was trying to get more money than the Spurs thought he was worth.

    I posted something similar in another thread.

    Maybe the Spurs aren't as high on Scola as was let on. Perhaps calling him a "priority" helps them use him as trade bait this summer. The Spurs have always been somewhat skeptical about Scola's size, rebounding and defense in the past.

    If the Spurs package Scola's rights along with Nazr or Rasho and get back a good NBA tested player, will you be disappointed?

    If the Spurs can't get Scola here for a reasonable contract (i.e. 3year/9M) then I don't see why they should overpay.

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    If other GMs are as high on Scola as some on this board, his trade stock will never be any higher than it is right now.

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    The Spurs just won the championship... Scola is not a necessity right now, in fact, where are his minutes going to come from?

    Rasho is now the overpaid 11th man. He might dethrone Malik's team record of most dollars spent on a chair courtside.

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    If other GMs are as high on Scola as some on this board, his trade stock will never be any higher than it is right now.
    So true.

    Scola to the Hawks for an unprotected draft pick?


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    Scola is worth a top 5 pick right now. I still say its a smoke screen. Rasho is gone.

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    This is probably a really dumb question, but here goes anyway...

    After the moratorium is lifted on the 22nd, will we then know what next season's roster will look like? Or is it sort of an on-going process all summer? I've never paid attention to trades/signings before, so I don't know how this works.

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    Usually within a couple of days after, the pieces fall into place.

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    This is probably a really dumb question, but here goes anyway...

    After the moratorium is lifted on the 22nd, will we then know what next season's roster will look like? Or is it sort of an on-going process all summer? I've never paid attention to trades/signings before, so I don't know how this works.
    They can't start signing people starting after the moratorium ends, but things keep changing all summer. We probably won't know the Spurs final roster until training camp.

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    As it stands right now there is likely one spot available on the active roster. I expect Devin Brown to be re-signed.

    Starters
    1 Parker
    2 Ginobili
    3 Bowen
    4 Duncan
    5 Mohammed

    Bench
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    1/2 Barry
    2 Brown
    4 Horry
    4/5 Oberto
    5 Nesterovic

    Looking at the bench, the obvious need would be a backup 3, though really it could be anyone.

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