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    A friend of mine is a manager for The Firefly restaurant in Los Angeles, pretty famous spot here. He texted me saying that Dwight Howard and CP3 were having dinner together 1 on 1 last night.

    He's a Laker fan so he pretty much said this isn't good news. Take it for what it's worth, maybe it means nothing.

    Anyway, INB4 DNA analysis or it didn't happen

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    So dem s going to Atlanta?

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    So dem s going to Atlanta?
    Is this legal as far as NBA terms goes? Obviously they met up to talk about forming a superteam in Houston.

    Honestly, I thought CP3 was smarter than this. He has a WAY better team with the Clippers than what Dwight Coward could ever bring him in Houston.

    Also LOL thanks again Kobe for chasing away another big man.

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    Is this legal as far as NBA terms goes? Obviously they met up to talk about forming a superteam in Houston.

    Honestly, I thought CP3 was smarter than this. He has a WAY better team with the Clippers than what Dwight Coward could ever bring him in Houston.

    Also LOL thanks again Kobe for chasing away another big man.
    Houston won't have room for both unless they can move in the Armor and Asik. Atlanta however can sign both to play with Horford and Lou Williams and still have about $8 million to try to get a small forward.

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    Is this legal as far as NBA terms goes? Obviously they met up to talk about forming a superteam in Houston.

    Honestly, I thought CP3 was smarter than this. He has a WAY better team with the Clippers than what Dwight Coward could ever bring him in Houston.

    Also LOL thanks again Kobe for chasing away another big man.
    Disagree: a core of CP3, Flop so Harden, and D12 (healthy) is better core than the Clipps core tbh. Lurch may be just the dude that could help D12's putrid post game. Look at what he did for KG in Minny.

    Not that being spotted eating dinner together like two s matter (they both live in LA), I could see them bolting for H-town. Rockets have a young talented team, no state income taxes, and adding CP3/D12 would make them legit contenders.

    Given the Lakers current turmoil with their old ass roster, ownership/FO issues and the Clipps' history in general, the idea of them both bolting should be given strong consideration.

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    And at the end of the day we all know what's going to happen.

    Dwight stays in LA and CP3 with the Clippers.

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    Houston won't have room for both unless they can move in the Armor and Asik. Atlanta however can sign both to play with Horford and Lou Williams and still have about $8 million to try to get a small forward.
    Damn - didn't know that about ATL. I'd like it because there would be another team to challenge the cHeat perennially. I'd like that tbh.

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    Houston won't have room for both unless they can move in the Armor and Asik. Atlanta however can sign both to play with Horford and Lou Williams and still have about $8 million to try to get a small forward.
    I do not believe this to be an accurate assessment of the situation in Atlanta.

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    Remember when Baron Davis and Elton Brand were also seen a lot in L.A hanging out together during the summer of 2008?


    Everyone thought it was practically a done deal. Brand will sign ane xtension with the Clippers and the Baron Davis-Elton Brand duo were going to take the NBA by storm.

    Yep, we all know what happened.

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    http://www.shamsports.com/2013/06/th...eams-will.html

    Projected cap space: At most, $35,504,580, but not really.


    If Atlanta renounce (or lose) Josh Smith, and renounce their remaining free agents (Kyle Korver, Devin Harris, Zaza Pachulia, Johan Petro, Ivan Johnson, Jeff Teague, Dahntay Jones, Hilton Armstrong, Erick Dampier, Etan Thomas, Randolph Morris and Anthony Tolliver), waive DeShawn Stevenson ($2,240,450, fully unguaranteed with no guarantee date), Shelvin Mack ($884,293, fully unguaranteed with no guarantee date) and Mike Scott ($788,872, fully unguaranteed until August 15th, thereafter $100,000 guaranteed) and sell or renounce their first round draft picks (#17 and #18, cap holds of $1,348,200 and $1,280,800), they will have a cap number of $22,995,420 (the committed salary plus nine minimum salary roster charges of $490,180 for having less than twelve things on the cap).

    (If you want to get really absurd, they could even amnesty Al Horford. Hypotheticals are fun.)

    This is, however, a maximum amount. And it's not a realistic one. Smith's cap hold will be equal to the maximum amount for a nine year veteran, and, while this amount will not be known until the new salary cap figure is determined, a slight increase in the cap will mean a slight increase in the $16,402,500 nine year veteran maximum amount that this year's cap produced. So unless he is renounced, or until he is signed elsewhere, that's a $16.5 million cap hold cutting into that $35.5 million figure. The same is true of Teague's $6,082,692 cap hold, and the negligible amounts saved by trading the picks, not giving Johnson his $1,250,854 qualifying offer, and waiving Scott, are also not likely to happen. In a scenario where they are all retained, then, Atlanta's cap situation then looks like this:


    Josh Smith: $16,500,000 (circa, cap hold)
    Al Horford: $12,000,000
    Jeff Teague: $6,082,692 (cap hold)
    Lou Williams: $5,225,000
    #17 pick): $1,348,200
    #18 pick: $1,280,800
    Ivan Johnson: $1,250,854 (cap hold & qualifying offer)
    John Jenkins: $1,258,800
    Mike Scott: $788,872
    Jeremy Tyler: $100,000 (waived)
    Roster charge (rookie minimum cap hold for not having 12 things on the cap, one for each number under - Tyler doesn't count): $490,180
    Roster charge: $490,180
    Roster charge: $490,180


    Total: $47,305,758 = $11,194,242 in cap room


    Even this scenario assumes the renouncements of Korver and Pachulia, quality role players who won't be easily replaced. Yet such is the reality of the gamble of cap space. Atlanta can and likely will have eight figures worth of cap space, and they could have an awful lot more than that should Smith move on. But it's a choice.

    (Note: "things on the cap" cons ute players under contract, free agents not under contract who have cap holds, and the cap holds of unsigned first round picks. Unsigned second round picks do not have cap holds and thus do not count for anything, and nor do waived players.)

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    And at the end of the day we all know what's going to happen.

    Dwight stays in LA and CP3 with the Clippers.
    Dwight's not staying man...I kind of wish he was but he needs Phil Jackson to develop his ass. CP3 is staying...though its going to be hilarious to see Clipper Nation get cuckolded when he leaves.

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    Not that being spotted eating dinner together like two s matter (they both live in LA), I could see them bolting for H-town. Rockets have a young talented team, no state income taxes, and adding CP3/D12 would make them legit contenders.
    Houston can only make room for one max contract, so they can't afford both, tbh....

    If CP3 really is dumb enough to leave a team that's letting him call all the shots and signing all the players he wants in order to team up with a pussy and locker room cancer like Dwight, more power to him.... he can feel free to kiss his precious "spotless image" goodbye, get ready to face actual criticism from the national media for once in his life, and not win anything in the process, tbh.....

    Don't really see it happening, nor do I believe that Besteva's "friend" is a legit NBA source, however

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    Houston won't have room for both unless they can move in the Armor and Asik. Atlanta however can sign both to play with Horford and Lou Williams and still have about $8 million to try to get a small forward.
    Couldn't they do a sign n trade with Lin and Asik and filler going to the Clippers for Paul?

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    Couldn't they do a sign n trade with Lin and Asik and filler going to the Clippers for Paul?
    They would have serious problems moving Asik and Lin's contracts to any team, as they were written as poison-pill contracts in order to over the Bulls and Knicks

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    Damn - didn't know that about ATL. I'd like it because there would be another team to challenge the cHeat perennially. I'd like that tbh.
    Bible Kemp has sounded really cold on the idea of Atlanta, but maybe things change with Paul. You have to wonder if Atlanta will spend the money on a bench over the next couple of years though if they can pull both.

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    Couldn't they do a sign n trade with Lin and Asik and filler going to the Clippers for Paul?
    No one is taking Lin's deal.

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    They would have serious problems moving Asik and Lin's contracts to any team, as they were written as poison-pill contracts in order to over the Bulls and Knicks
    How would they have problems? They would take the same cap hit the Rockets do at 8/8/8

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    No one is taking Lin's deal.
    If Presti is re ed enough to give Harden away for nothing, someone out there is just as re ed.

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    Bible Kemp has sounded really cold on the idea of Atlanta
    Not hard to see why, tbh.... the crowd at every game would be full of his baby mamas/family members screaming for their child support/handouts

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    No one is taking Lin's deal.
    That's what they said about Hedo. He was traded twice. Same with Richard Jefferson.

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    Someone will take Lin. At this point it shouldn't really surprise anyone how GM's overpay for talent. See most recent casualty, the Bucks offering Monta Ellis a multi year contract and we'll see someone offer Brandon Jennings an equally absurd contract.

    Lin's not bad. Even if he doesn't meet expectations, he's still marketable.

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    That's what they said about Hedo. He was traded twice. Same with Richard Jefferson.
    OK, I get that you can trade crap for crap, but no one's absorbing Lin's deal to open up the necessary capspace for Houston. You're getting another bad deal back in return.

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    Houston can only make room for one max contract, so they can't afford both, tbh....

    If CP3 really is dumb enough to leave a team that's letting him call all the shots and signing all the players he wants in order to team up with a pussy and locker room cancer like Dwight, more power to him.... he can feel free to kiss his precious "spotless image" goodbye, get ready to face actual criticism from the national media for once in his life, and not win anything in the process, tbh.....

    Don't really see it happening, nor do I believe that Besteva's "friend" is a legit NBA source, however
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    Well, depends on how you view Asik. I think he's damn solid and him + a couple 1st rounders to eat Lin's deal might be doable.

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    Lin/Asik/Robinson in a S&T with the Lakers for Bible Kemp tbh.

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