Results 1 to 25 of 25
  1. #1
    Soft Like Twinkie Filling Juggity's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Post Count
    6,564
    Damn, doesn't this guy know better than to harshly grade spurs draft picks?

    Link

    1 B Cavaliers select: Anthony Bennett, PF, UNLVI like a lot of what he provides. Good instincts. Size is gonna be an issue. However, if you put Bennett with a great point guard, he can be elite.
    2 A Magic select: Victor Oladipo, SG, IndianaIt's very likely that he's going to be able to contribute. The wingspan isn't great. But I think that he gives Orlando a lot.
    3 A+ Wizards select: Otto Porter, SF, GeorgetownHe's a leader. He's going to be able to attack for them. This Wizards team is really headed in the right direction.
    4 D+ Bobcats select: Cody Zeller, PF, IndianaHe's going to get blocked all the time. His level of aggressiveness near the basket is not where it needs to be. He's going to have problems with guys that are more physical. Does he have the skill to overcome that?
    5 F Suns select: Alex Len, C, MarylandI'm probably being too harsh on him. But I look at his pick and roll, I look at his strength at the basket, and I look at his upside to what he can possibly be, and I don't see a dominant player.
    6 A Pelicans select: Nerlens Noel, C, KentuckyThe only reason it's not an A+ is the knee issue. I really like his ability to block shots. He's instinctive. When he starts learning some veteran tricks, he can be dangerous. Great job by New Orleans.
    7 B Kings select: Ben McLemore, SG, KansasA good pick for them, but maybe not transcendent. He has the ability to be a game changer or a ghost for the Kings. Nothing in between.
    8 B- Pistons select: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG, GeorgiaI like him a lot. I don't care about what he did in college; that team was bad. A little bit of a reach, absolutely. But when you look at what Detroit needs, it's a great fit.
    9 A Timberwolves select: Trey Burke, PG, MichiganThis trade makes a lot of sense. Utah needs a point guard. This is perfect for them. The exact right move.
    10 A+ Trail Blazers select: C.J. McCollum, PG, LehighMcCollum is a combo guard. I think he covers up for Damian Lillard's weaknesses. He can create off the dribble, score dynamically and be an outside shooter.
    11 B- 76ers select: Michael Carter-Williams, PG, SyracuseIt's hard to see who they could have taken that would be better. There are questions about his decision making. Overall, he's athletic and he's got big moves. Philadelphia gets Noel and Williams, a fascinating combo for the Sixers as they try to start over.
    12 F Thunder select: Steven Adams, C, PittsburghHe's so raw. He has terrible hands. I really don't like his strength. How is he going to be able to produce? I just don't think he's going to be able to contribute for the Thunder.
    13 C Mavericks select: Kelly Olynyk, C, GonzagaDallas is sending him to Boston. I would rather go with someone with a little more umph. I'm not sold on his muscle. The Celtics needed his position; I'm just not sure he's going to translate very well.
    14 C+ Jazz select: Shabazz Muhammad, SF, UCLAUtah has traded this pick to Minnesota. His success is going to depend a lot on whether he can make the NBA three. He's gotta be able to stretch the floor. I like that he's not going to be asked to create. He's going to be a role player.
    15 B- Bucks select: Giannis Adetokundo, SF, GreeceIt's a position move for Milwaukee and it helps them out considerably in that area. He's 18, but this kid is talked about as being ready right now. With his athleticism, he's got a great chance.
    16 C Celtics select: Lucas Nogueira, C, BrazilThis pick ends up in Atlanta, via trade from Boston through Dallas. I'm not really sold on Nogueira being anything special. He could be OK, but for Atlanta, it's really a question mark. I don't understand why you trade up to get him.
    17 A+ Hawks select: Dennis Schroeder, PG, GermanyI love this pick. Absolutely phenomenal. Schroeder is a guy who can come in and direct that offense. He and Al Horford are going to do damage. They're going to tear guys up.
    18 B Hawks select: Shane Larkin, PG, Miami (Fla.)This pick goes to Dallas via trade. I like his aggressiveness. I like his intangibles and his fearlessness. I'm worried about his size. I'm also concerned because Rick Carlisle can be very hard on point guards.
    19 A- Cavaliers select: Sergey Karasev, SF, RussiaI think he has questions, but he can come in and contribute right now at this level. It's also a really good pick for the Cavaliers from a position standpoint.
    20 A- Bulls select: Tony Snell, SG, New MexicoDo I think he has the upside of Allen Crabbe? No, I don't. But I think he's going to be able to slide right in and contribute for the Bulls.
    21 B+ Jazz select: Gorgui Dieng, C, LouisvilleThis pick ends up in Minnesota via trade. Very solid pick. Maybe shooting guard might've been a better position pick, but I love what he brings. Kevin Love and Dieng together? All of your rebounds now belong to Minnesota.
    22 A- Nets select: Mason Plumlee, C, DukeIt's a bold pick, but I kind of like it for the Nets. A fine compliment for a team that needs help at power forward. A smart player who can also bring muscle.
    23 D+ Pacers select: Solomon Hill, SF, ArizonaI don't know what they saw in him. It's baffling. What made Solomon Hill the guy they go after?
    24 B+ Knicks select: Tim Hardaway Jr., SG, MichiganNeeds to improve his accuracy at the free throw line. But the Knicks landed a solid guy here in Hardaway that will help them in several ways. But he's not a passer. So the question is when is he going to get the ball?
    25 B- Clippers select: Reggie Bullock, SG, North CarolinaNot a home run but a very solid pick. I have some questions about him. His form in terms of release could be considered excellent. He doesn't have the fastest shot in the world. Good size.
    26 B- Timberwolves select: Andre Roberson, PF, ColoradoThis pick heads to Oklahoma City via a trade involving Golden State. I like a lot about what I saw from Roberson this year. A little bit of a reach, but not a phenomenal one.
    27 C Nuggets select: Rudy Gobert, C, FranceIn yet another trade, this pick heads to Utah from Denver. Gobert gives them a very talented guy whom they can develop. I like his footwork a lot. There are questions about his strength, toughness and ability to work hard. Smart pick for Utah, stacking talent and going young.
    28 D- Spurs select: Livio Jean-Charles, SF, French GuianaI think they could have gotten him later if they traded down.
    29 B+ Thunder select: Archie Goodwin, SG, KentuckyThis pick winds up in Phoenix via trade. I like this pick a lot. It gives the Suns a significant upgrade on the wing.

  2. #2
    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    16,539
    Tbh not harshly graded on potential, just on draft placement.

  3. #3
    Veteran 8FOR!3's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Post Count
    4,211
    So Cody Zeller at #4 is a smarter pick? Get the out of here.

  4. #4
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Post Count
    233
    I don't agree that Thomas will be in the D-League. I see him on the Spurs bench.

  5. #5
    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    16,539
    Jordan is the anti-Jordan of the front office. Tbh does anyone have a worse draft history than him?

  6. #6
    I'm your huckleberry K-State Spur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    4,810
    I mentioned this in another thread, but draft grades are typically based on ONE thing and ONE thing only: where the player was drafted compared to where the writer's mock draft had him going.

  7. #7
    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    55,054
    Matt Moore is a great writer but, he likes to take his shots at Spurs fans and the Spurs.

    Jean-Charles will be here next summer so we shall see.

  8. #8
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,447
    Eh, 28 isn't much different from a high second rounder. Even a slight potential advantage to locking a young guy into the rookie scale.

  9. #9
    Satanic Point Guard Stabula's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    2,796
    I don't expect to see Jean-Charles in a Spurs uniform unless he really out-does himself the next two years.

  10. #10
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Post Count
    48
    Gobert is like Thabeet this pick deserve an E

  11. #11
    Scrumtrulescent
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Post Count
    9,724
    Moore is probably right in the sense that LJC would still have been there around the mid 2nd had the Spurs not taken him, but in order to trade down you have to have to find someone who wants to trade up. As suspect as this draft class is, I don't see much difference between the guys taken in the late 20s and the ones taken in the early 40s, so what's the incentive for a team to trade themselves up into having to give their pick a guaranteed contract?

  12. #12
    Veteran rjv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,201
    reviewer is not looking at the trade in the context of the team's overall strategy for the pick (e.g., saves us 900,000.00, frees a roster spot)

  13. #13
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    rc said spurs thought he was top 20 pick

  14. #14
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Post Count
    448
    Do the Spurs' rights to LJC change depending on whether he was drafted in the 1st or 2nd round? If we drafted him in the 2nd round, would our rights be limited to X number of years before he becomes a free agent?

  15. #15
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Post Count
    4,770
    Who cares what a scrub NFL quarterback thinks of the NBA draft?


  16. #16
    Veteran dbreiden83080's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Post Count
    20,159
    They took him to save cap space..

    The move was fine..

  17. #17
    Veteran dbreiden83080's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Post Count
    20,159
    Bobcats select: Cody Zeller, PF, IndianaHe's going to get blocked all the time. His level of aggressiveness near the basket is not where it needs to be. He's going to have problems with guys that are more physical. Does he have the skill to overcome that?


    This guy is missing the point.. Jordan will be able to beat him 1 on 1..

  18. #18
    aka Huckleberry 3.14159 Marrow's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Post Count
    210
    Eh, 28 isn't much different from a high second rounder. Even a slight potential advantage to locking a young guy into the rookie scale.
    exactly...there's tremendous value if the prospect can outplay his rookie contract

  19. #19
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Moore is probably right in the sense that LJC would still have been there around the mid 2nd had the Spurs not taken him, but in order to trade down you have to have to find someone who wants to trade up. As suspect as this draft class is, I don't see much difference between the guys taken in the late 20s and the ones taken in the early 40s, so what's the incentive for a team to trade themselves up into having to give their pick a guaranteed contract?
    I agree overall, but there was a ton of first round activity last night with regards to moving up.

  20. #20
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    29,455
    I thought it was well understood the Spurs appreciate the rookie scale salary of a late 1st round pick. Taking him there rather than in the 2nd (if a trade were even present) gives them a solid, cheap salary if he does ever come over.

  21. #21
    Manu Ginobili's bald spot chapnis's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    1,254
    Glad for the low grade, means LJC is gonna be a stud.

  22. #22
    Manu Ginobili's bald spot chapnis's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    1,254
    Also, he gave the Grizzlies a D for the 60th pick because "he'll never play". Oh, no ing .

    I bet if this guy wrote draft analysis in 1999 the Ginobili pick would've been a bad one too.

  23. #23
    Believe. AusSpur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Post Count
    599
    He seems unaware the New Orleans traded Noel

  24. #24
    Good to Great hsxvvd's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Post Count
    2,427
    Who?

  25. #25
    Straya AussieFanKurt's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    8,065

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •