2009-2010 and getting RJ
IMHO, I think the worse offseason of the Tim Duncan era is the 2003-2004 season. I was excited about the Spurs coming back to defend their championship with a healthy Tim Duncan, unlike 1999. I was thinking to myself during the offseason “man, the Spurs have a great future ahead of them.” The key players of the championship run are young such as Malik Rose, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Speedy Claxton, and Stephen Jackson. Bruce Bowen was in his prime age.
What happened next? All of the sudden bombs started dropping down when I heard that Stephen Jackson had been signed by the Atlanta Hawks and that the Spurs were going to let him walk. Another bomb came my way when I heard that Speedy Claxton had been signed by the Golden State Warriors and once again, the Spurs let him walk. I remember saying to myself “eww, this isn’t good. We’re losing David Robinson to retirement and now we’re getting rid of two of our key role players?” I was like “WTF is RC Buford doing? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
I then got my hopes up when I found out that the Spurs were going after Jason Kidd. I had my doubts as to whether signing Jason Kidd would be a good idea long-term given that Tony Parker was still developing but I was still excited about the idea because Jason Kidd is one of the greatest PG’s of all time. The atom bomb blew up on me when I found out that Jason Kidd was going to remain in with the Nets because of his stupid wife (now they’re divorced LMAO @ irony). The FO ended up signing Rasho Nesterovic, Hedo Turkoglu, Ron Mercer, Anthony Carter (what a scrub SMH), and Robert Horry.
We all know what happened during the playoffs. The Lakers clogged the lane. Hedo Turkoglu could not hit an open shot to save his life. Robert Horry choked big time against his former team. Shaq started owning Rasho once he figured out that he was being fronted (typical Pop move) by the defense. I don’t even want to remind you’ll of the .4 Derek Fisher shot. Lakers came back from being down 0 – 2 to sweep the Spurs all because of the ty moves done by the FO during the offseason. The FO pulled a Mark Cuban to a lesser extent in braking up the core of a championship team.
So what’s the worse offseason in the Tim Duncan era folks? I wanted to put this 2013 offseason given the fact that the FO has hardly done anything to improve the team. Ranking this offseason as the worse offseason would be unfair on my part given the fact that staying pat is better than breaking up a team.
Hindsight being what it is, possibly.
I remember quite a few posters this forum being giddy as when that trade was announced, though.
In terms of ST reactions in the middle of an offseason, I remember quite a bit of ing in 2003 when Rasho was the biggest acquisition (along with letting Jackson and Claxton go); same in 2004 with Brent Barry.
Remember, PATFO tried to swing for Kidd but for some reason he chose to stay in Joisey. Never got back to the conference finals throughout the rest of his stay there, while the Spurs won two more in that span.
03-04, imo. Ron Mercer, Hedo, and Anthony Carter as FO's (and Charlie Ward at the deadline). Matt Carroll and Alex Garcia as rooks.
I can understand how Hedo seemed like a great bet, but otherwise? Just awful work by -- and terrible luck for -- the FO that year.
EDIT -- oops -- just read the above post and realized I forgot about Rasho. That guy was totally under-sung/over-hated since he wasn't D-Rob. Only bright spot of the offseason if you ak me.
Also: the FO failed to negotiate a workable contract with Jack when he was in his prime. That's mostly on Jack, but as a fan, that hurt.
Last edited by admiralsnackbar; 07-23-2013 at 06:07 AM.
Nice le. Should have gone to summer school.
Which is stupid, because he was asking for like 7-8 mil a yr on 3-4 yrs, and coming off that season he was totally good for it. The Spurs had the money if I remember correctly, I guess Pop just didn't want to commit to a headcase.
Can I ask. Are you a fan,of every Texas team's D-league affiliate team, or do you just really love Texas?
I like that Texas teams have D-League affiliates.
What about this offseason? ESPN Grade of C-.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188182
I was completely against getting Jefferson, never liked the guy.
I remember as well that most of spurstalk was really high on him. Lakers and mavs fans even compared it to the Gasol trade.
At the end of the day, we're still a small market team with a relatively poor owner. Shouldn't expect much else from offseasons lol
Manu was up for renewal the following year iirc, and signing Jack at that price point would have made it hard to retain Ginobili, who was/is obviously the bigger talent.
Speedy a "key role player" ? on other teams he proved how the Spurs screwed up in letting him go.![]()
I was going to read this threat until I saw you did it, so I won't read this. Because you are not fan of San Antonio Spurs, you are Timmy's Fan and Manu Hater. If you would have done a thread about worst off season of Ginobili, you would say: 2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012 and 2013.
based on what you've told us, weren't you about 7-8 years old when we won in 03? If so, I hardly think you were worrying about RC Buford. And yeah, why would Rasho ever decide to front Shaq? Might as well just stand behind him and let Shaq impose his will.
at calling fronting a "typical pop move." as if pop invented it and fronts everybody. he had that strategy implemented in rounds 1 and 3 and it worked to perfection
Jefferson was the worst offseason acquisition. It was so surprising, because he had horrible advanced stats (Spurs often seem to be Moneyballing,but not that time).
Picking up Hedo, Horry, and Nesterovich should have worked. They just couldn't hit their open by ten foot shots when necessary and let Shaq and the rest of the Hackers clog the lane. Sheeh, if Bonner had been on the team, he'd have scored 20 pts per in that series.
You should re-watch the games especially Games 1 & 2. Rasho was fronting Shaq fooling a lot of Spurs fans that he was doing an excellent job defending Shaq. Phil Jackson adjusted and managed to find ways to get Shaq in better positions.
I never said that Pop "invented fronting," I'm just pointing out that Pop has always loved to front dominant big men. You said it yourself, in the playoff games against the Lakers and Memphis this year, Splitter and Duncan were fronting Dwight Howard and Zach Randolph and it worked fine. Fronting did not stop Shaq in 2004 because PJ adjusted.
@ TGY haters butt hurt because I'm always throwing truth bombs at them about their favorite player. Ass hurt Manu s
This year's playoff version of Matt Bonner, yes. The Matt Bonner that we first signed from the Toronto Raptors, no. Don't forget that Matt Bonner has shat the bed for the past 6 playoff years.
Last edited by TheGreatYacht; 07-23-2013 at 10:25 AM.
seems like every offseason, tbh...
I liked the trade. The Spurs traded players who were finished and went on to do nothing in the league.
At first I thought tgy was a troll but I'm starting the think he's literally challenged
I just find it funny how you and xmas1997 are constantly netpicking everything I say just to show everyone how much I'm in your head.![]()
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