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Why bother?
Comrade Obama will veto it.
"It's been just over a month since the NSA's dragnet surveillance program was leaked to the public. Tomorrow, Congress is voting on an amendment that would block funding for NSA programs that collect the call records of innocent Americans. A win tomorrow may start a chain reaction — but it won't happen unless we speak up. We have one day to convince Congress to act."
The EFF is urging U.S. citizens to call their representatives, noting that there is no time for email to be effective (find your representative). You can read the amendment on the EFF site, quoting the EFF: "Reps. Justin Amash, John Conyers, Jr., Thomas Massie, Mick Mulvaney, and Jared Polis are proposing an amendment that would curtail funding for the implementation of orders under Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act unless the order is explicitly limited in scope. ... Even as the Amash/Conyers Amendment is gaining momentum, some are rallying around a decoy amendment that would do nothing to rein in domestic surveillance. That amendment, championed by Rep. Nugent, would not alter in any way the government's use of Section 215 to obtain bulk communications records on millions of Americans. EFF is urging Representatives to oppose the Nugent Amendment."
Why bother?
Comrade Obama will veto it.
Wow! We finally agree on something, WC!
I think Obama would only support this at the end of his term as a legacy-minded action, and only when he felt he could get to the end of his service without a major terrorist/criminal/what-have-you incident.
The police/surveillance state, the corporate MIC are out of control of intimidated, corrupted politicians and tv-watching civilians, are unstoppable.
OBL is laughing his ass off at how he single-handedly got America to itself more than he could ever imagine.
It's a miracle! I completely agree with you, too, boutons!
He has to veto the entire Defense budget... unlikely to say the least.
The ammendment has no chance of passing but I am interested to see who votes for and against it.
Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys
Whether the FBI and NSA have the legal authority to obtain the master keys that companies use for Web encryption remains an open question, but it hasn't stopped the U.S. government from trying
The U.S. government has attempted to obtain the master encryption keys that Internet companies use to shield millions of users' private Web communications from eavesdropping.
These demands for master encryption keys, which have not been disclosed previously, represent a technological escalation in the clandestine methods that the FBI and the National Security Agency employ when conducting electronic surveillance against Internet users.
If the government obtains a company's master encryption key, agents could decrypt the contents of communications intercepted through a wiretap or by invoking the potent surveillance authorities of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Web encryption -- which often appears in a browser with a HTTPS lock icon when enabled -- uses a technique called SSL, or Secure Sockets Layer.
"The government is definitely demanding SSL keys from providers," said one person who has responded to government attempts to obtain encryption keys. The source spoke with CNET on condition of anonymity.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...tag=e703&ftag=
The government, if it keeps this pace, will turn the back guys into cult heros at some point in the near future.
I'm pretty sure the NSA already knows how the vote will turn out.
It got voted down, 215-207....
Surprised the vote was that close tbh.
Well, at least we now have a definitive list of who the traitors are in Congress
All of them.
Why?
There are authoritarians on both sides who see us as their sheep.
At least my representative voted YES. He was also the only democrat I voted for.
Correction: it's "unstoppable" to you when blue team's in charge, but it's all red team's fault when they're in charge....
Ah. A rare sighting of the bipartisan WC. He only comes out when he disagrees with the majority of red team to point out that there are bad blue teamers too.
unstoppable no matter which party is in office, GFY
You simple minded
the big defense was that the NSA/CIA/FBI (aka Keystone Kops) pervasive surveillance/police state has saved 1000s of Americans lives (oops, except for Boston Marathon, even after Russia gave hints!
lol boutons
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