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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/0...cle_605091.php

    One factor is the health of second-round pick Ronny Turiaf, who was held out of half the summer-league season because of complications with his physical. It is possible the contract Turiaf signed a week ago will be invalidated and the Lakers will lose another big man.
    That's pretty sad; I hope he gets healthy and can still play. He's one of Tony Parker's good friends and supposedly a good guy.
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    personaly i think things liek that and he whoel grant hill thing sucks
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    I wonder what it is.

    If so, a shame. I was hoping for Turiaf that he would make it.

    By the way it isnt pronounced Ronny, its Row nee

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    Rumors are it might be a minor heart condition
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    I deleted all the stupid posts in this thread.

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    I deleted all the stupid posts in this thread.
    After you finish deleting posts....get Clubalien a spell checker.

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    I've heard rumors too that it's IHSS or idiopathic hyertrophic subaortic stenosis also called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. That's what Hank Gaithers died of. The way the Lakers are reacting it seems pretty serious whatever it is.

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    That sucks. I wonder if it's part of the reason why his stock fell.

    Probably not.

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    It's sad news if it's true.
    He is a realy good guy who could be a solid role player in nba (not like Petro aka the next Moiso).
    Hopefully he decided last year to retire from the draft to have his degree in marketing this year. So maybe he will never earn money with Basketball but he will maybe have a good job.

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    There was a press conference about this - it is confirmed he is out for the season and will require heart surgery for an enlarged aorta.

    http://forums.lakersground.net/viewt...r=asc&start=25

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO

    Kori Ellis you should ban that Spur fan that brought the bad karma

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    Sorry to be so crass, but Mitch Kupchak's dog always ate his homework. He couldn't draft beer.

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    Sorry to be so crass, but Mitch Kupchak's dog always ate his homework. He couldn't draft beer.
    He coudn't draft beer, ho ho ho. you! We're talking about someone who will undergo open heart surgery and you're making stupid comments. Ronnie has been regarded as a steal in the second round and already has shown great character. We just lost a promising young big and a nice guy so go fist yourself. Lakers and Spurs will always be enemies but some lines you don't cross.

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    He coudn't draft beer, ho ho ho. you! We're talking about someone who will undergo open heart surgery and you're making stupid comments. Ronnie has been regarded as a steal in the second round and already has shown great character. We just lost a promising young big and a nice guy so go fist yourself. Lakers and Spurs will always be enemies but some lines you don't cross.
    Let's be glad that this problem was caught before any ill effects were realized. In that regard, let's acknowledge that Mr. Turiaf played a full college schedule with, apparently, no problems.

    With that said, Mr. Turiaf is a property that was poorly evaluated by a notoriously bad appraiser -- your own Mitch Kupchak.

    If you're too dense to see that, go &^%*%*& yourself.

    More to the point, enjoy the next few seasons of Laker basketball.

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    Its looking like 2pac will never play in the NBA as well.

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    PARKER HAS RE-SIGNED!
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    THAT SUUUUUUCKS.
    you can never be happy about a young hard working young fella. russ you lost it.
    i hope turiaf can have a successful surgery and one day fullfill his nba dreams.
    good luck to him

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    THAT SUUUUUUCKS.
    you can never be happy about a young hard working young fella. russ you lost it.
    i hope turiaf can have a successful surgery and one day fullfill his nba dreams.
    good luck to him
    I lost it, huh?

    What about the Lakers?

    Doctor to Turiaf: You need heart surgery.

    Kupchak to Turiaf: That nice contract you just signed, we're going to invalidate it.

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    Much bigger deal than just another lost draft pick by the Lakers, Russ. A life is on the line.

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    it is called respect.
    when a guy is going for heart surgery the first thing you do is not to be outragious.

    Actually if contract is invalidated what did the lakers lost? a scound round. come down on the agressiveness. remember it is a SPORT first and even if it is a business you can still show respect for the dude.

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    Much bigger deal than just another lost draft pick by the Lakers, Russ. A life is on the line.
    Okay, I'll take the bait.

    Why did he fall so far in the draft, then?

    Would you have picked him higher because "a life was on the line?"

    What about the Laker "family" that is trying to nix his contract?

    Many people are diagnosed each day with Turiaf's condition. Our hearts go out to all of them. But should they all be compensated by NBA teams regardless of what they can contribute?

    There's only one way to prove that you are sincere -- advocate a trade of Tony Parker for Turiaf. Otherwise, stop passing judgment on others who are only looking at this like every other NBA GM is.

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    "advocate a trade of Tony Parker for Turiaf"

    said it all. sorry

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    Why did he fall so far in the draft, then?
    He has had a quite bad senior season at Gonzaga (some injuries) and has limited offensive skills. His draft possition was not related with his heart.
    It was not a laker's mistake but only bad luck especially for Turiaf.

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    What Turiaf probably has is what is called an aortic aneurysm, which is an enlargement of the aorta (the main artery in the body) due to a weakening of the layers in the wall of the vessel. In young people it may be due to genetics (Marfan's Syndrome, Ehrlos-Danlos Syndrome), and is typically located up high in the chest. In older people it's usually due to long standing high blood pressure and high cholesterol and is located lower down in the abdomen.

    It's tough to diagnose an AA in a young person since in many cases they are asymptomatic. They may have had vague chest and/or back pain once in a while, but for the most part they don't find out they have it unless 1) they are having an excruciating episode of ripping chest pain that radiates to the back or 2) it was an incidental finding on a chest x-ray.

    I'm not sure if a chest x-ray is part of a potential NBA player's physical (my guess is no). It's not something you can necessarily pick up on a physical exam either.

    In other words, unless the player has a genetic condition that predisposes him to having an AA, OR they are complaining of symptoms that make you su ious, it's TOUGH to pick up on any plain physical exam (especially if the AA is located in the chest versus the abdomen).

    And no, you don't just suddenly get an aneurysm, unless ofcourse you suffer a traumatic blow to the chest, which can rupture your aorta and give you an aneurysm.

    I think Kupchak may have been the victim of just bad luck.

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    Damn that sucks. Turiaf was one of my favorite college players. Hope that one day he can play in the NBA.

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    Let's pray that he gets healty and can lead a normal life - basketball is the least thing that is of importance now for him.

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