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Parker wilted. But dude.... Eight turnovers? And then he gets it somewhat together only to throw four picks and a couple ill-timed fourth quarter bricks early in the clock with the le on the line????
If you're gonna on Manu Ginobili for being his usual streaky reckless self in the Finals, you should also blame Tony Parker for disappearing in Games 6 and 7, and Danny Green by association. Tiago for being too much of a burden against a small team when he and Timmy were meant to have the size advantage. Kawhi for missing that free throw. Neal for being a chucker. Diaw for not shooting enough. And most of all Pop for over-adjusting and gambling on the percentages.
The San Antonio Spurs won and lost as a team is what I'm saying.
Parker wilted. But dude.... Eight turnovers? And then he gets it somewhat together only to throw four picks and a couple ill-timed fourth quarter bricks early in the clock with the le on the line????
your FYI clown!
Whats an "FYI clown"? Sounds weird.
Last edited by Skull-1; 09-10-2013 at 11:38 PM.
There's blame to go around, no doubt. No one was perfect, Duncan missed those layups, Kawhi with the FT miss (which tbh, I was surprised he made one, considering the pressure at his age). Parker definitely went into heroball mode too often but I think we're all numb to it by now.
But imo Pop and Manu deserve the lion share of blame. Ultimately I have to blame Pop, the buck stops with him. As historically bad as Manu was, Pop kept sticking with him, scared to try out something else. And as historically bad, Dead Sea Scrolls enshrined as Manu was, he wasn't the one to pull Duncan when all we needed was a friggin rebound. If it starts from the top then Pop deserves his props for doing some great things this year but he also the bed royally, sad as it is to say.
Exactly. Granted, you can't help but overcoach against the team with the best player in the series, but Pop can be blamed for playing the percentages and choosing to focus on contesting a possible 3. The team also has to be on the dock for letting the Heat close the gap with a flurry of 3s in the 4th.
My point is that the Spurs know they lost and instead of pointing fingers as we fans are wont to do, have implicitly accepted that they lost as a team and that to get back they should focus on improving as a team.
This!!!!!!!!
If only TP hadn't pulled his hammy!!
If only...
If only...
If only...
If only...
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If Manu had Green's health guys like Skull-1 wouldn't be wanting to pop a shot into him when they see him on the Riverwalk tbh
If Manu had Green's health guys like Skull-1 wouldn't be wanting to pop a shot into him when they see him on the Riverwalk tbh
More like pop a cap. I save my shots for women in videos.
This has been the point I, and most of the rest of us who see things in a rational positive manner, have been saying, and arguing, all along. Regardless of if this, or if that, or who did what, or how much, or how little, or even how tired, the simple fact is they lost as a team.
And we should also give the Heat some credit too for taking it away when they had the opportunity to do so.
I mean there were two teams out there and the Heat simply out played our team when it counted, at the end.
I am not too proud not to admit this fact, as unfortunate as it turned out to be.
I am still proud of the Spurs though for making it that far when they were not supposed to be there by all accounts and predictions, they defied the odds and very nearly pulled it off for a 5th ring!
Outplayed and out thought. Kept their cool under pressure while we wet ourselves.
Just when I thought I was over this..
You've also got to figure AGE had something to do with it, and luck.
The Spurs were spent after game 6, in fact toward the end of game 6. It looked like to me TD could barely stand. I imagine Manu was the same otherwise he doesn't normally make so many errors, but the Heat having the younger big 3, were flat out lucky there was an age and a fatigue factor involved.
IMHO had the age factors been equal, in other words both teams in their prime, the Spurs take it in 5 games!
Which is why heat check shots early in the clock that went clang killed us.....
And as much as I hate to say it, because I don't really like the guy, Wade, as improbable as it was, rose to the occasion.
I mean I thought for sure the Spurs had it once Wade wore down due to injuries, but he somehow managed to show up when it counted most, damn it!
Again with this ? No, it doesn't work that way because unlike everybody else on the team, Manu performed WAY BELOW expectations. One good game, one average game with a ty closeout, four garbage ass games where he was practically a ghost, and one game that was so horrendously played that it will forever be remembered as the Spurs' version of Buckner letting the ball roll through his legs.
in Danny Green deserves blame? Lmao, he sets an NBA Finals record for threes made on a godly % and you think he deserves blame? A 37 year old Duncan who was pretty much our best player of the series deserves blame? A Parker who despite his injuries and carrying us to the Finals didn't the bed with handling the ball like Ginobili did deserves as much blame? Leonard deserves blame for missing a free throw when that miss wouldn't have even mattered had GINOBILI not missed his on the possession right before that? Diaw, a role player nobody expected anything from, deserves blame when he locked down LeBron James multiple times?
Get the outta here. Manu by far performed worst of anyone on the team from an expectation standpoint. Even if you had lowered expectations, he still underperformed. Look at his numbers for christ's sake. Game 1-4, numbers. Game 6: TERRIBLE numbers. Game 7: Barely average numbers but shat the bed at the end anyway. Dude only had one good game and otherwise underperformed and let us down every single night.
Wade faked it for his legacy. Like the pitcher with the red sharpie.
See, now this is a real take. A man's take. And dead nuts on. I should bold the whole f---ing thing!!!
Last edited by Skull-1; 09-11-2013 at 01:52 AM.
Man, I get so tired of reading the bull !!!!!!
The bottom line is the Spurs lost, not just Manu, or Pop, or Kawhi, or Green, or Tiago, or anyone else.
The Spurs as a team lost. The Heat as a team won. End of story!
Last I heard, basketball was a TEAM sport.
If you want a scapegoat then go watch an individuals sport like golf, or bowling, or tennis!
Then you can blame it ALL on one person.
Last edited by xmas1997; 09-11-2013 at 02:01 AM.
BEST take ever.
It's less than a month before the new season and here we are, still talking about that Finals loss?
MOVE ON SON!
With as much blame as the spurs as a whole are getting here you would think we got swept. The bottom line is this, even with all the mistakes our team made, we could've easily won the series, and we were the better team. No one will admit it. The Heat know it. The Spurs know it. We know it.
God, I'm so sick of thinking about this .
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