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I'm curious to see if this thread is going to work out.
I have sources (within the Bulls organization) that tell me that the Bulls are looking to move Deng after not getting a deal done this summer. They would like to trade him for assets now rather than lose him to free agency for nothing. Noah and Gibson (and Mohammad) are all looking at getting more playing time next season. All things equal, they would rather move him to the Western conference (instead of the Eastern conference and much less to their own division rivals).
What says no first to this trade?
Bulls Receive:
Danny Green
Nando De Colo
1st Round Pick
Spurs Receive:
Kirk Hinrich
Luol Deng
Why it makes sense for both teams:
Spurs obviously get a big time player (one year rental, but it doesn't matter at this stage of Duncan and the gang's career). Deng would provide a lift on defense, as well as bolster our much needed scoring (especially when our outside shots aren't falling). Hinrich would be the backup PG we've been searching for all along. He has the experience and the ability to score and hit open threes. Not to mention, he's one of the better defensive point guards (good size at 6'4").
Bulls pick up a great defensive player in Green, who has emerged greatly these past two seasons. He really proved himself last year in the playoffs. He has the ability the three ball. Not to mention, he's still on a relatively cheap contract, which provides the Bulls some flexible in case they want to make a run at a max player next season or mid-season acquisition (i.e. this trade frees up cap space). NDC is just another PG they could use after giving up Hinrich, and the 1st round pick is just a sweetener (used to sweeten the deal). The 1st round pick isn't really useful to an older team like the Spurs, but for a young team like the Bulls, it would be very useful.
Cowley, Joe. "Luol Deng Contract Snag Could Mean Bulls Fishing for Bigger Free Agents."
Chicago Sun Times. Sun Times Media, 11 Sept. 2013. Web. 12 Sept. 201
Last edited by mute; 09-12-2013 at 02:32 AM.
I'm curious to see if this thread is going to work out.
Deng is pretty legit, but I'm not sure I want to let go of Green so fast. Plus we should really hang on to our 1st picks.
I'm in favor of trading for a true SF to play small and still be good defensively.
That said I would pass on Deng...
Besides I would be very careful about trading with the Bulls when you know they have a coach that has no problem playing his guys 48min a night... Who knows how healthy they are... They was talk about a long time wrist injury and then he was sick and lost a lot of weight at the end of last season... Wouldn't touch it personnally.
ever heard about the CBA? your proposal ingnores basically every rule for contract numbers / salaries.
so no need to start a discussion about the basketball logic involved. Deng is a current all-star, an All-Defense player, he is in his prime and Bulls are not the Wolves or whatever disaster management franchise you might have in mind, that might be interested in trading a dollar for 2 cents.
backup PG and SF depth are what SA needs though... I'd do it. I don't know if anyone cares too much about the team post-Duncan atm. Green has peaked too, imo. Nando's best game came against CHI too.
this won't happen, I'm sure
18.3 million vs 5.2 million.
Smart trade idea. Real smart.
E: This phrase alone already pings my bull -o-meter.
E2: I knew it, you were the moron who proposed RJ going back to the Spurs and was utterly clueless about the Barry trade and waiving.
lol Paul George
lol Yao
lol RJ
lol Deng
lol "my sources"
Last edited by anakha; 09-12-2013 at 04:43 AM.
Deng is injured every year. Doesn't matter if the logistics could be worked out. We aren't trading for glass.
You lost me at "I have sources".
end your life
The Spurs already have a great SF and they don't need an aging, injured wing because they already have one.
I don't like this trade at all, spurs taking Deng creates a log jam at SF, and Deng isn't fast enough to play sg and it would be a tough transition/unnatural for kawhi. Manu isn't right for extended minutes, and Green is still on the upswing. I don't like the idea of having a new to the spurs system of Bellenelli there for most of the minutes especially with his questionable defense.
This is a pure case of trading for names and not thinking about how they fit. And having K heinrich doesn't really make the no defense at sg situation much better.
I don't like letting that 1st round pick go in this upcoming draft unless they somehow can get a better 1st round pick somewhere!
Doesn't he have like a health problem or smth
Alicia Keys singing "This boy is on drugs, this boy is on drugs."
His "sources" don't say which Western Conference team.
This rumor may be true, however I seriously doubt the Spurs are interested especially since Kawhi is a budding potential all star SF.
And I doubt Deng would want to be a backup SF after being a two time all star.
More likely the Spurs will look for a really good defensive SF backup to Kawhi, someone like Nunnally although he is really a SG.
Last edited by xmas1997; 09-12-2013 at 11:48 AM.
The Spurs are moving into some potentially dangerous times and have to be even more careful than ever about trades, especially those that might be only marginally improving.
At some point in time the wheels are likely going to come off on two key parts of the Big 3 at the same time in a future regular season because of injuries or age and we'll have a pick in the top 15.
If that happens we will need our first pick as insurance. In past years we didn't need the insurance so much because we still had a reasonable expectation that the Big 3 had a long shelf life ahead of them, barring a career ending injury. Not so much now. In fact, almost any serious injury could be career ending for Manu or Tim.
If you trade a First along with a starter, then you have to get a really good replacement with the anticipation that he will have a long shelf life as a Spur.
Yeah off the top of my head that trade is about $10 million apart. Diaw and Bonner would have to be added to make it work. Splitter can't be traded until January and has a trade kicker.
Deng has like $14 million
While Henrick has probably about $3 million.
Combined Green & De Colo make $ 5.1 million
Nice one.
deng is great, but what Green brings to our team is tough to replace. One of the best 3 and D guys out there. We'd have poor floor spacing with our starting unit. Sure, Kawhi is solid at the corner 3, but he's not a sharpshooter like Green is. Who would start at the 2? I don't think its wise to move Kawhi from the SF spot, and Deng isn't a good enough outside shooter to play the 2. Plus, Green is significantly younger, and I wouldn't want to throw in a first since we will need all the assets we have as the end of the Tim era is approaching.
Take after your nickname and quit creating bull threads where your total lack of knowledge re the NBA is exposed.
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