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NM, misread the thread le
Just curious tbh
NM, misread the thread le
Hakeem s on Jim
tbh
Most value prime than longevity. Duncan's prime was amazing but Olajuwon's was historic winning MVP, Finals MVP, DPOY and a championship all in one season.
I think Hakeem was one of the best and most fluid big men of all time, I just think Timmy has a fair argument since he's won 4 and been Finals MVP more times.
That's probably the reason why Lebron is already ahead of Kobe in all time rankings as well. I love Kobe but the lack of regular season MVP awards really hurts him.
True, but Duncan also had better help throughout his career.
I doubt he will after Duncan's retirement. Considering the freakish resurgence he went through last season, I'd say that just about places him above Hakeem in every way.
Duncan - better career
Dream - better player
Enough with that ring argument TBH
Dont tell me Fisher was better than Stockton
Kobe 5
Jim 4
i hate arguments like this honestly, its stupid. you can't bring two players who are obviously not in the same class.
now if you tell someone fisher is better than steve kerr, despite kerr having more rings then ill buy it.
Replace 2010 Fisher with prime Steve Kerr, we may not have 5-4 right now.
The Horry, Fisher, Kerr argument is overrated. These were GREAT role players that did the sometimes small and at times crucial things that resulted in championships. But guys like Duncan, Dream, Magic, MJ were THE alphas on a team. It's so irritating when someone throws the Horry argument in the equation.
lol.
This is close to a winning argument as there is. That said, while Duncan was the more offensively skilled player for first 7-8 seasons of each's careers, Hakeem's early years are pretty undervalued.
les aren't comparable since they are from different eras, but swap players on the other's respective team and I doubt Duncan wins more than Hakeem's two, but give Hakeem prime Ginobili, Parker and quality depth with the Spurs, I I start to think Spurs have 5 les or more, as Robinson could carry the offense early, then as Hakeem's offense peaked, I don't see how the Spurs are stopped from 2002-2011.
Trick question. Most people don't rank Hakeem Olajuwon above Tim Duncan.
olajuwon overrated hack, every fkn clown thinks his 2 prime years his been playin like that his whole career
Tim has collected more silverwares but the Dream was the better player as an individual imho. Dream was simply dominant at the defensive end while also being the primary scorer of his team. Dream is a locked top 5 player of all time imho. The big fundamental in his prime was probably just as good as Dream in offense, but Dream's dominance in defense was the tie-breaker
I'll put 2003 Tim up against peak anybody tbh. I loved that team for a lot of reasons (heroics from Jax, the one game Kerr actually did something positive for the spurs, Speedy Claxton coming up big in the finals while TP's balls hadn't dropped yet, Robinson's final season) but realistically its the least talented roster to win an NBA le for a LONG time. Take Duncan off that team and they'd end up with a LOT of ping pong balls. But they dethroned the 3-peat Lakers and Duncan got the MVP-fMVP duo
the 3 peat lakers were tired, its not a huge achievement to beat a team that's been in the finals 3 straight years, anyone knows after a 3rd deep post season run, the defending champs are officially out of contention the next year mainy due to fatigue.
95 Olajuwon would destroy any Duncan you put in front of him.
I disagree, signed 03 Tim............ got. Change your fave team got, your an LA fan, you too coward to put your teams name under your avi? 03 Tim one of the best le runs ever, period.Yep I agree with you man, I mentioned that before I read your reply and talked to that with his Spurs avi and his fave team under that when he is an LA fan. 03 Tim has one of the best runs over the era, period! 03 TIM was riduculous.
actually a good point and even better you left Rapist off that list.
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