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Nice. You decry something that is damaging your Dem POTUS and in the same post deflect blame to the previous GOP POTUS. You shill with an purpose, Dan.
OK....we get it...the Bush administration spyed on everybody..now you may just being a little vindictive?....the NSA has been doing what conspiracy theorists have said they been doing for years....big surprise...
Source: Guardian UK
The NSA Has Been Monitoring The Phone Calls Of 35 World Leaders
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-p...eaders-2013-10The National Security Agency monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders after being given the numbers by an official in another US government department, according to a classified do ent provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.
The confidential memo reveals that the NSA encourages senior officials in its "customer" departments, such the White House, State and the Pentagon, to share their "Rolodexes" so the agency can add the phone numbers of leading foreign politicians to their surveillance systems.
The do ent notes that one unnamed US official handed over 200 numbers, including those of the 35 world leaders, none of whom is named. These were immediately "tasked" for monitoring by the NSA.
According to NSA whistle blower Russ Tice, the NSA had been monitoring Obama since 2004 when Condoleezza Rice was secretary of state and Donald Rumsfeld was in his final months as defense secretary.
Nice. You decry something that is damaging your Dem POTUS and in the same post deflect blame to the previous GOP POTUS. You shill with an purpose, Dan.
Snowden's revelations don't hurt Obama..all this was in 2006....and in a tragic way, I am defending the Bush Administration....we have suspected for years that the government has been spying on foreign leaders...Snowden is just telling them how...at what point does it become treason?
Hang yourself traitor.
agree with dan. Snowden is now gradually transforming himself from a hero into an asshole, imho
wait so it's your stance that telling the world the truth is a bad thing dude? i don't want to live in a surveillance world run by central bankers, if you're a communist and you're down with that then you're our mortal enemy. the only good communist is a dead communist, we need to go back to Nuremberg and get it right this time.
Settle down Francis...spying ain't cool, but we have enough out there to hang the people responsible already...but I guess we will have to let history judge these people because there is no political motivation to do so from the public in the courts...
So when will this "hanging" commence? Because so far you did nothing.
it's not just a little harmless spying dude, this is a rabid out of control technocracy arming up to the teeth against its own people while causing death and destruction all over the globe. these assholes must be stopped at any and all costs.
people are standing up to it all over the globe..the Arab uprisings...the transformation of South and Central America puppet governments..
the only place where people seem pacified is the US....
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/...on-our-allies/So why the uproar? I think it’s partly because of a cultural gap between Europe and the US. Privacy is much more sacrosanct on the European continent than in the US or Britain – and in Germany undergirded by the memory of the Stasi’s surveillance. Merkel grew up in that climate in East Germany and to find the US doing what the Soviet client state once did is, well, almost as stunning as seeing the US use Soviet military installations to torture prisoners using Communist torture techniques.
That Snowden guy is a real hero, and Obama is pretty butthurt about him. It's got some Obama supporters butthurt too. Glad he has been able to evade the corrupt White House for the time being. Not sure how long his right to freedom and safety will last..the tyrannical Obama White House is definitely trying to figure out how to murder or throw him in a secret prison without due process which would include torture. Still wondering why fake liberals never said anything about the conditions THIS administration put Bradley Manning through while they continued to take his freedoms away in Bush's name..for exposing war crimes, while the actual war criminals go free (Obama included). He/She too is a hero.
Maybe they'll make a movie about him that no one will go see.
Putin at first promised he would not harbor snowden if he keeps releasing info. Then Snowden showed Putin ALL the info he has on the US. Putin then welcomes Snowden into Russia with open arms and zero conditions.
Snowden. One of the biggest american patriots since Paul Revere
This che fella should be in the running for political poster of the year tbh lol
You cannot be so blind to realize that it is Obama that is getting called by the French President and the German Chancellor. I would say it is at the point where we should not be spying on our allies leaders at all. Suspect and confirmation are two completely different things. Now you are just being obtuse.
Our spying policy is ed up and I am glad that it is being outed. The NSa is a relic of the cold war and needs to be dismantled along with other Cold War security apparatus.
"StopWatching.us is a coalition of more than 100 public advocacy organizations and companies from across the political spectrum. Join the movement at https://rally.stopwatching.us. This video harnesses the voices of celebrities, activists, legal experts, and other prominent figures in speaking out against mass surveillance by the NSA. Please share widely to help us spread the message that we will not stand for the dragnet surveillance of our communications.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is a nonprofit civil liberties law and advocacy center that has been fighting the NSA's uncons utional spying for years. Learn more at https://eff.org."
Stop Watching Us
worthy goal but the militarized police/NatSec surveillance state is unstoppable, irreversible, with no effective oversight by Congress (eg: Clapper outright felony lying to Congress then outed by Snowden, then got off with an "error" rather than prison).
Another Member Of Congress Calls Congressional Oversight Of The NSA An Utter Farce
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/25/another-member-of-congress-calls-congressional-oversight-of-the-nsa-an-utter-farce/
here's how the NSA sees press freedom as its enemy
As Europe erupts over US spying, NSA chief says government must stop media
General Keith Alexander, actually demanded Thursday that the reporting being done by newspapers around the world on this secret surveillance system be halted (Techdirt has the full video here):
The head of the embattled National Security Agency, Gen Keith Alexander, is accusing journalists of "selling" his agency's do ents and is calling for an end to the steady stream of public disclosures of secrets snatched by former contractor Edward Snowden.
"I think it's wrong that that newspaper reporters have all these do ents, the 50,000 – whatever they have and are selling them and giving them out as if these – you know it just doesn't make sense," Alexander said in an interview with the Defense Department's "Armed With Science" blog.
"We ought to come up with a way of stopping it. I don't know how to do that. That's more of the courts and the policy-makers but, from my perspective, it's wrong to allow this to go on," the NSA director declared. [My italics]
There are 25,000 employees of the NSA (and many tens of thousands more who work for private contracts assigned to the agency). Maybe one of them can tell The General about this thing called "the first amendment".
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ief-government
As I've always said, the FBI/NSA/CIA are simply beyond the law and beyond oversight, and they ALL know it.
doing whatever it takes to extend his assylum
N.S.A. PROMISES TO STOP GETTING CAUGHT SPYING ON ALLIES
Responding to the firestorm of controversy over its spying on European allies, the head of the National Security Agency said today it would do everything in its power to avoid being caught doing it in the future.
“There are two important jobs for every spy agency: spying on people and avoiding detection,” said the N.S.A. chief General Keith Alexander. “Unfortunately, at the N.S.A. we have only done the first job well.”
“We have abused the trust of some of our closest allies,” he said. “And none of this would have happened if they hadn’t found out.”
General Alexander said that the agency was ins uting strict new practices that amounted to “a zero-tolerance policy on getting caught.”
“I had a meeting with my top people today and said, ‘I want you to put the same energy you put into spying on Germany, France, and Spain into keeping them from figuring out what we’re up to,’ ” he said. “ ‘Anything less than that will be unacceptable.’ ”
General Alexander also offered a heartfelt apology to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, a prime target of the agency’s eavesdropping. “I know how upsetting it must be for you to know that your closest ally has been listening in on your phone conversations for the past eleven years,” he said. “I give you my solemn promise that in the future you won’t know.”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rowitz%20(189)
NSA hacks Google/Yahoo
http://m.washingtonpost.com/world/na...washingtonpost
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