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    Before you go nuts on me, keep in mind I am talking the All-Star year of Stark, his career year, compared to Ginobili last season.
    Both of them are streaky outside shooters, very unpredictable on the drive, and good defenders.
    Now, of course , Ginobili is arguably more clutch (Starks single-handedly shot the Knicks out in Game 6, I believe, going something like 2-18), is more creative with the ball, and has way better shot selection, but I see similarities with the way they approach the game, and how they can both drive the coach nuts, or make a ridiculously good play. It's just that it's very difficult for me to find anybody I have seen who's game is reminense of Ginobili, Starks is probably the closest.
    What do you think?

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    Am I missing an inside joke here?

    I don't think Ginobili is a streaky shooter.

    Ginobili is "unpredictable on the drive" to defenders, but the results are fairly predictable.

    Ginobili is INFINITELY more clutch than Starks.

    Bad comparison.

    Although I've seen about 30 seconds of Pistol Pete highlights in my life, I think he is a more appropriate comparison; if only because they are/were undeniably unique players amongst their peers.

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    I thought it was something like 2-28.


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    Pre 2004-2005, this might have been a valid comparison, but I don't think Starks ever came close to shooting 47% from the field for a season. I think he was a very low 40s shooter. About the only thing they have in common is that they are both fearless. Their skillset isn't even close, though.

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    Okay when is the Ginobili > Jordan topic going to start?

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    When the Starks = Ginobili topic is over. Move on, midget.

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    I don't see the similarity here. Maybe only defensively because Starks hustled and played hard on both ends just like Ginobili does. The comparison ends there though. Starks was considered a gunner but not a well rounded player. Ginobili definitely has him beat in the offensive aspect of the game....ball handling, slashing, creating for his teammates, etc. The Knicks never gave Starks the ball and asked him to create something for himself or his teammates in crucial or non-crucial moments. He camped on the outside and took the open shots Ewing gave him.

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    I must admit i just love watching this guy play

    Great players make the game look easy but Manu is different, he makes everything look hard

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    I totally forgot about the part where Ginobili can create way better than Starks, which is true, but I still stand by the part where Ginobili is a streaky shooter. He can miss 5 of 6, then go on a 8 for 10 run, we saw that on numerous occasions in the playoffs alone, and of course, when he was on those 8 for 10 runs, the Spurs were invincible.
    You guys were right, the difference lies in the fact that when the outside shots weren't falling, Ginobili creates opportunities, where Starks can do little but stand around and wait for the chances to come along.

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    Starks was better defender than Manu, but he put his mind in a deep, deep hole in clutch situation... If Starks ever had 2 games like games 3 and 4 with the pistons he would never improve for games 5, 6 and 7 gradually... Manu is stronger mentally...
    Plus, Manu is more creative...

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    Okay when is the Ginobili > Jordan topic going to start?
    I don't get it. If the thread reads "Ginobili" just don't read it midget, but don't come to EVERY thread where someone talks about Ginobili just to . If you have something to say, say it. If you don't, just stay away. It's not that hard you know.
    Besides, we all know you love that freakin hot dog deep inside. Why would you post such compliments in his website otherwise, right?

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    I think that they approached the game with the same mindset and style, but Ginobili is considerably more talented. I won't knock you for drawing the comparison but I think what this really highlights is what a unique player Manu Ginobili is. I don't think there's a player out there that you could point to and confidently say, "Manu Ginobili is this generation's ______."

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    Okay when is the Ginobili > Jordan topic going to start?
    wait for a couple of rings more ...

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    Manu's game don't really compare to any current NBA player or to John Starks...

    Manu = Efficient... Slasher.... shooter Starks = Shooter... Slasher
    if i were to compare Manu with the top 2 guards.
    Top 2 Guards: prefer to take jump shots rather than slash... Manu prefers to Slash

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    Probaly Tony Parker is more like Starks than Manu

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    Although I've seen about 30 seconds of Pistol Pete highlights in my life, I think he is a more appropriate comparison; if only because they are/were undeniably unique players amongst their peers.
    Ginobili >>> Maravich, at least on the pro level. Maravich was a terrific scorer, but was kind of like Steve Francis as a team player.

    Ginobili to me is kind of a Latin John Havlicek. El hondo bahiablanquense.

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    IM butchering the spelling of his name, but Manu reminds me of Seronous Marcelonus that i watched KILL The Spurs in the playoffs when we played GS in one of Robinson's first years.

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    Probaly Tony Parker is more like Starks than Manu

    I agree but just the shooting part of parkers' game. As we all know, TP is a better driver.

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    I agree but just the shooting part of parkers' game. As we all know, TP is a better driver.
    no way! Starks actually could sink some 3s

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    I agree but just the shooting part of parkers' game. As we all know, TP is a better driver.
    But both can Shot 2-17

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    IM butchering the spelling of his name, but Manu reminds me of Seronous Marcelonus that i watched KILL The Spurs in the playoffs when we played GS in one of Robinson's first years.
    I believe you mean Sarunas Marciulionis, I thought of him too. A fearless drive, extremely efficient scorer, great shooter, but he is no where as quick and creative as Manu, and he was a terrible terrible defender.
    Not like Manu is Bruce Bowen, but Manu can play some D, Marciulionis on the other hand ..... not in his life.

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    Ginobili is way better than Starks. lmfao and no way are their games similar.

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    no way! Starks actually could sink some 3s

    Parker can make threes, all he has to do is forget how crappy he is from the 3line.

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    Manu: 2 Rings - Starks: 0

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    Cross between Pistol Pete and Hondo.

    Manu has the creativity and flair of Maravich but without looking like he's showing off. Mix that with the all-out effort, intensity, and champion's heart of Havlicek.

    The reason he reminds me so much of Havlicek is that very few players ever made it appear as though he was everywhere on the court. Like Havlicek, there are just times where it seems there is more than one Manu on the floor.
    Last edited by Solid D; 07-26-2005 at 03:05 PM.

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