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why would it be a long season because of those subtractions?..
Blair wouldn't have played and Ayres isn't going to play much, and the Spurs did fine last year with Neal having an atrocious season/being a liability, tbh..
i know it's early but...
Dejuan Blair - 9.5 ppg / 7.3 rpg
Jeff Ayres - 1.8 ppg / 3.0 rpg
Gary Neal - 12.3 ppg / 3.3 apg / 1.0 topg
Marco Belinelli - 7.5 ppg / 1.8 apg / 1.0 topg
COJO, Red Mamba, Icy Hot (combined)
7.2 ppg / 3.2 rpg / 1.1 apg
Might be a long season.
Blair wouldn't have played and Ayres isn't going to play much, and the Spurs did fine last year with Neal having an atrocious season/being a liability, tbh..
Offense is not how we won our championships, defense is. And Belinelli/Ayers are both better defenders than Blair/Neal. Might not be by much, but we can afford to "lose" a bit of offense in exchange for better defense.
Keep saying it, Belinelli isn't a stats player, you have to look beyond that to see the impact he makes on the court. Plus Neal was placed in the starting line up because of the OJ Mayo injury, so his stats per minute are inflated.
Beli is overrated here and isn't an upgrade over Neal IMO, they're roughly the same, but I just looked up Neal's numbers so far and they're actually pretty bad, tbh
Id like to see their mins posted as well....
Neal 2012-2013:
FGA: 8.8
FG%: 0.412
Belinelli so far this season:
FGA: 6.6
FG%: 0.481
Dejuan Blair - 9.5 ppg / 7.3 rpg
Jeff Ayres - 1.8 ppg / 3.0 rpg
Gary Neal - 12.3 ppg / 3.3 apg / 1.0 topg
Marco Belinelli - 7.5 ppg / 1.8 apg / 1.0 topg
Take the players and flip the teams, same stats tbh. What do you expect when your role increases?
#1 stats aren't everything... #2, it's been 4 games.
Ayers, while still trying to learn the Spurs system, already makes better rotations on D than Blair did in his time here.
Don't get me wrong, Blair can put up numbers, and is tailor-made to be a good contributor on mediocre or bad teams. But I understand why the Spurs didn't want to sign him again.
Marco
http://rater.fantasybasketballcoache...er.php?id=4296
Neal
http://rater.fantasybasketballcoache...er.php?id=4796
Those were last year's numbers and the two were nearly identical statistically speaking. However, Neal was playing injured for the majority of the season. When Neal got healthier, his numbers imroved while Beli's stayed the same.
Beli is overrated here and isn't an upgrade over Neal IMO, they're roughly the same, but I just looked up Neal's numbers so far and they're actually pretty bad, tbh
Belli takes a huge dump on Neal, much better shot selection, he can pass and make plays for others unlike Neal (doesn't disrupt ball movement), he seems to be an average defender as opposed to Neal being possibly the worst defender in the nba, he doesn't commit stupid fouls which Neal was notorious for either. Belli is still trying to fit in as well, he hasn't had years to gain chemsistry with SA.
I think you forgot just how bad Neal was last year, he was awful.
Neal was a terrible team player. Addition by subtraction imo.
Can't forget that Neal was playing in Pop's system surrounded by some great players, meanwhile Belli was playing with a Rose-less bulls team.
Plus the stats only show so much, they don't show Neal's non existent BB IQ.
Stupid thread
Huh? Belli is the same as Neal. Doesn't impact the offense much at all and is a big negative on D.
Belli's 2013 On/Off stats: -3.5 Net
Neal's 2013 On/Off stats: -4.7 Net
They're both pretty ing bad.
Green(a guy Spurstalk likes to on recently in favor of Bellinelli) had a bigger impact in games than either player:
Green's 2013 On/Off stats: +1.5 Net
Belli seems to be getting overrated because:
1. he reminds people of Ginobili(and Manu has a load of fans here)
2. he's European and Spurs fans assume that any Euro that plays in Pop's system is going to be good
4 games into the season, 78 to go
It's not how you start, it's how you finish, tbh
Word..........
Blair and Neal are going to have better stats with their new teams because they will be playing more minutes, tbh.
blair = rebounding ........................... blair/manu PNR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manu/splitter PNR.................................
blair rebounding>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>splitter rebounding ............................
This is a nice sound bite but it's not true so I don't know why people keep saying it. Offense + Defense wins championships. Neither is more important than the other. Adding +1 point to your overall score is no different than subtracting 1 point from the opposing team's score. Differential wins championships, not defense (or offense) individually.
Completely disagree with this, tbh... it's not a zero sum game. Your offense can be really good, and still suc b to bad shooting nights or players going through slumps. A solid defense is much less susceptible to such things.
Word...............
You think you are teaching me anything? Take the '05 NBA Finals, for example, the Spurs allowed less than 87 points per game. That is when the defense was arguably at its peak. Defense is what we prided ourselves on, and was the key reason we won the championship. There is a reason that there is a correlation between great defense and championships in the NBA.
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