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Who do you all think was at fault? I say both are a little guilty of recklessness.
Who do you all think was at fault? I say both are a little guilty of recklessness.
Haven't cared enough to read the story. What were those cars doing in the middle of the road?
How is it that both are at fault from your pov? The dude was reading when he should have been watching the road. Vehicles don't magically steer themselves yet.
The guy was looking at porn/facebook/escort services while driving a tanker truck @ 65 mph - pretty hard to blame both parties here..
Officer should have pulled his cruiser over, but I hope they throw the book at that joker for his negligence.
Because the officer had his patrol unit parked on the road, he should of pulled over to the shoulder. He also should of put up some sort of cones or hazard triangles like truckers do. Do you know how hard it would of been for the semi to stop even if he did see the patrol unit?
Haven't heard that Tal Bachman song since HS
Just noticed the song. Pretty sweet tune.
Also, studies have been done on drivers driving on a long straight path and they found that many times the driver falls into some sort of daze and eventually loses it and wrecks. Can't blame him for looking at babes tbh.
I mean the driver is obviously an idiot but I think both made some mistakes that caused this terrible accident.
What if the patrol car was broken down (hypothetical as I doubt it was). Not saying that your response is not right, however his response time would have been better prepared not reading to where he could have missed the car completely by going into the other lane as a precaution or even blew his horn to make those aware of the situation. Also, with the time he had, when not reading, I bet he would have noticed that his speed was increasing on the car within his field of vision and adjusted appropriately. Just to bad he was reading to do so. Chalk it up to moronism 101.
my uncles a truckdriver...it's crazy some of the roads and conditions he has to drive in. blizzards on mountains kind of .
What I think happened is that he noticed the cop car but didn't think it was at a stand still. Sometimes its hard to tell if a car is moving or not. This guy probably had a long night and his reaction times were delayed a bit.
If it had been someone besides a cop fixing a flat while still on the road no one would have a problem blaming the person in the car. You would be saying "idiot deserves to get hit" But since its a cop car your subconsciously bias.
Another scenario:
Lets say the truck driver was alert and not only steered away from the cop car in time but by doing so he fishtails his trailer and kills a mother and her baby on the other side of the road now who's to blame?
I was about to bring this up. What if there was a car in the left lane? I still think the cop shouldn't of been parked in the middle of a highway.
Not true. I definitely wouldn't blame another person as who knows if the car was stalled. And if it was just a regular person who's to say that they don't have any road flares or cones to put out as I know I don't. If anything the cop should have put something out as Rob pointed out because those are items people know they have on hand. tl;dr: i'd be even more bias against the trucker if it was just a regular joe in a broken down car in the middle of the road.
Daaaaaaaaamn. Someone's shorts got filled.
I was addressing Spur fans they are some of the most Bias people I know.
dumb cop.
I always thought it was Fastball
Put that in neutral and push it to the side. There's no excuse to have a vehicle stopped in the middle of a highway. Of course you have to put most of the blame on the driver but how often do you just get distracted and stop looking for cars in front of you while driving long distances? Common sense says it's the cop's fault
Ugh. that song.
The semi-truck that crashed into several police and fire vehicles, killing an Arizona Department of Public Safety officer in early May, was “tossing cars around like they were toys,” according to one witness statement.
Officer Tim Huffman, 47, was killed on May 6 while investigating an earlier crash on Interstate 8, about 40 miles east of Yuma. An 18-wheeler driven by Jorge Espinoza, 33, had plowed into Huffman’s patrol car and several other vehicles at about 5 p.m.
Espinoza, who faces 20 felony charges including second-degree murder, was on his cell phone at the time of the collision, according to 600 pages of case files obtained by The Arizona Republic on Friday.
The do ents and a video from an in-dash camera revealed that Espinoza was on Facebook looking at pictures of provocatively dressed women at the time of the wreck.
Espinoza, who pleaded not guilty in June, told police he was looking over his shoulder at a passing truck when suddenly he felt the violent jolt from the crash. Espinoza was not injured.
He told police he never saw the multiple DPS and fire department vehicles on the roadway, or an officer frantically waving his arms trying to get his attention before he jumped out of the way.
Police said the satellite-linked camera on his dashboard suggests differently. It showed what appears to be Espinoza’s white, Samsung smart phone flying from his hand when he struck the first vehicle. Espinoza, seen in the vehicle being knocked about like a rag doll, had told police the use of cellphones was strictly forbidden by his employer and that he followed policy.
The video shows a wallet that, according to investigators, seemed to be “intentionally and neatly” placed in front of the camera to conceal Espinoza’s face and body, a police search warrant affidavit said. That, according to company policy, was also prohibited.
“It also appeared Espinoza was looking or manipulating his cell phone prior to the collision,” the do ents said.
A detective executing a search of Espinoza’s cell phone records found that he “was viewing photographs of women with very little clothing, along with other photographs” when he struck the other vehicles.
That wasn’t the only time he had used his phone while driving, according to his commercial driving logs and cell phone records.
Witness statements portray a surreal and catastrophic scene as Espinoza’s tractor-trailer rammed into the vehicle of first responders, who were on-scene for an injury accident involving an elderly person.
Huffman was sitting in his vehicle using his patrol car computer at the time of the crash.
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