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    Remember all that bull over the CBA negotiations where players had to take it up the ass so more teams would stop struggling and everyone would be more compe ive?

    The east is basically a two horse race, the rest sucks. The west is barely any more compe ive (only because OKC and Houston keep getting det whistle, and the Spurs are an injury away from faltering). At most, a 4 horse race there.

    Is this the weakest the league has been in a while?

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    The CBA negotiations are only an avenue to show how most NBA front offices are incompetent and stupid.

    Aside from that, it's nothing more.

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    What are you talking about? We are going to have the Pacers and Bobcats in the Eastern Conference Finals with the Bobcats winning in 7 games. In the WCF, we will have the Spurs beating the Pelicans in 7 games. The Pacers will beat the Spurs in 5 games in the NBA Finals.

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    There isn't much you can do about parity in basketball, tbh..

    The league is probably going to receive a boost from the elite college classes coming in the next 2 years, though..

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    You also have to add Derek Fisher to the "winners" column on that deal, tbh... that under the table deal with the owners extended his career 3+ years, IMO...

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    its not because of the CBA though. its the lack of tier 1 talent in the league. the lack of true "franchise players." no amount of bargaining can fix that

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    Remove 5-10 teams from the league

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    its not because of the CBA though. its the lack of tier 1 talent in the league. the lack of true "franchise players." no amount of bargaining can fix that
    Well, but the premise for the killer salary cap, lux tax and revenue distribution was that small market teams couldn't compete with big markets, and that with the bigger caps everyone could hire top talent.

    If there's a lack of "franchise players", then all that was all bull and a money grab for owners. I mean, if there's a lack of premium players, then Lebron should be making a ing fortune. supply-demand.

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    its not because of the CBA though. its the lack of tier 1 talent in the league. the lack of true "franchise players." no amount of bargaining can fix that
    this. new CBA is better than old one. also doesn't help most of the teams in the East ing suck and want to drain money from the rest.

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    you're a phony Holden_Caulfield's Avatar
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    the d league is more entertaining, they all suck equally

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    - Too many teams in the league

    - Too many meaningless regular season games, leading to coasting by certain veteran teams

    - Too much recycling of ty coaches

    - There will be a lot of tanking this season and next season

    All things considered, the number of contenders isn't any different than usual, tbh..there's generally only 1-2 contenders in each conference, excluding certain years like the 2011 West..

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    If more guys stayed in college and developed their game, the nba product would be better with less parity. Instead we get one superstar every 3 years, and good 2 good players per draft. Then other players get the whistles to manufacture their "greatness".

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    Well, but the premise for the killer salary cap, lux tax and revenue distribution was that small market teams couldn't compete with big markets, and that with the bigger caps everyone could hire top talent.

    If there's a lack of "franchise players", then all that was all bull and a money grab for owners. I mean, if there's a lack of premium players, then Lebron should be making a ing fortune. supply-demand.
    thats true. the only team i can think of that has been ed my cap problems was OKC because Harden ended up being a cap casualty

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    OKC only got ed because of Harden's greed and ego. He could have been a man and stepped up and continued to play for OKC for a discount.

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    OKC only got ed because of Harden's greed and ego. He could have been a man and stepped up and continued to play for OKC for a discount.
    But that's just it, OKC had to make a decision to keep or let him go based on money. Teams like LA just say it, pay him what he wants regardless of how far over the cap we are.

    Those teams build super teams regardless of the price tags. Other teams have to be smart with their money or have very unselfish players which is a rarity in todays game.

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    NBA players especially the "good" ones act like they are gods. So sad how pro athletes are treated and perceived by society. They are men playing a kid's game for money. Plain and simple.

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    NBA players especially the "good" ones act like they are gods. So sad how pro athletes are treated and perceived by society. They are men playing a kid's game for money. Plain and simple.
    I HATE when people complain about how much money athletes make. They make that much because everyone in the world wants to watch them play. Besides, our society would be even more ed up and violent than it already is without the distraction of professional athletics.

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    Kobe deserves 30 million a year to play a kid's game 82 times a year?

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    But that's just it, OKC had to make a decision to keep or let him go based on money. Teams like LA just say it, pay him what he wants regardless of how far over the cap we are.

    Those teams build super teams regardless of the price tags. Other teams have to be smart with their money or have very unselfish players which is a rarity in todays game.
    The new luxury tax makes all teams have to be smart with their monies. The days of the Knicks or Lakers being way, way over the lux cap are over with this CBA. I don't care how much money they make, the penalty is incredibly expensive and it gets spread out to the teams that don't hit the lux cap. The new 'twist' is now to lure talent at half the price because they're chasing a ring, and the really talented superstars taking paycuts so they can make superfriends teams (IIRC, both Lebron and Bosh didn't get the full max).

    The player salary cap and new revenue distribution only ensure that owners that made terrible decisions about their rosters still cash in.

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    Kobe deserves 30 million a year to play a kid's game 82 times a year?
    He makes the Lakeshow, the NBA, ESPN and Nike a ton of money. If he would be a baseball player where there are no caps, he would easily collect way more than that. Same for Lebron.

    It's not what they do, it's the revenue they bring (marketability, etc)

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    OKC only got ed because of Harden's greed and ego. He could have been a man and stepped up and continued to play for OKC for a discount.
    Maybe if Clay Bennett didn't move the team out of Seattle, he could have been able to afford full price....

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    Kobe deserves 30 million a year to play a kid's game 82 times a year?
    Yes, he does.

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    I just don't get why players can't be humble and put aside their own greed and ego for the sake of their team. Kobe is a great player but 30 million is too much.

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    Someone doesn't understand basic economics. Kobe's worth to the NBA and the Lakers is much, much more than 30 million.

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    He makes the Lakeshow, the NBA, ESPN and Nike a ton of money. If he would be a baseball player where there are no caps, he would easily collect way more than that. Same for Lebron.

    It's not what they do, it's the revenue they bring (marketability, etc)
    Yep, Kobe would be on an A-Rod contract. LeBron too.

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