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I'd think $6 million and 4 million (on average per season) for Diaw and Mills. I'm not sure I'd go any higher than that for either of them.
If Diaw and Mills are both looking for big time pay-days, then there may have to be some tough decisions to be made. I too, want to see Baynes get another year.
I'd think $6 million and 4 million (on average per season) for Diaw and Mills. I'm not sure I'd go any higher than that for either of them.
You have to be willing to go higher to keep Boris. They have Cory behind Patty, but there is no Plan B on the roster for Boris.
No need to go higher than that unless they are other teams willing to take Boris away by overpaying him. A 2 million dollar payraise should be good enough but we'll see.
I read somewhere that the Spurs would need to renounce the rights of their free agents (because of cap holds) then they will be able to use the bird rights for Mills and Diaw along with the mid level.
If if figured correctly, the Spurs would have $52.7 million to 9 players if they renounced everyone (including Daye, and not including the $1 million to the 30th pick if we use it). Could the Spurs use the cap space and then exceed the cap by using the bird rights and allowing the Spurs to then have access to the MLE or another exception if they opt to use it?
I think they would be bidding against themselves. His value to the Spurs is different to his value on the rest of the league . I don't necessarily think he is worth $8-9 a year but if it doesn't hurt our ability to make improvements elsewhere It doesn't matter as much. I'd think a 3 year, $18-20 million is more than fair.
I meant that they need to be willing to go higher than 6-7 if there are suitors for Boris at a higher price.
They only need to renounce rights if they plan on signing on a free agent using cap space. A team can use cap space or the MLE, never both in the same season. There are, however, many scenarios where a team can use cap space to sign a free agent and then use other exceptions later on to exceed the cap.
For example, if Leonard isn't extended this summer, he'll be a restricted free agent next summer. His cap will be around 4M. Until he signs a new contract, that is the number used in cap calculations. With that lower number, the Spurs could sign a free agent with available cap space and then sign Leonard to any amount up to the max. They would also be able to use the so called "room exception" in that scenario and also add players signed to vet minimum contracts.
Quit being modest, you killed him 2 pages ago. Everything since has just been pissing on the corpse.
Are the Spurs not allowed to resign both Patty & Boris after using cap space since they have both played 3 years with the Spurs? I must be missing something as I have a feeling I'm off..
More specifically: The Spurs should be able to re-sign both Boris/Patty and still have the MLE correct? They don't have to use "cap space" to sign those two is what I am getting at. Don't know why this has me turned around.
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they can, but the cap space will be limited due to cap holds unless they renounce bird rights
They have Bird Rights on both, so they can sign them both using the Bird Exception and still use the MLE. Can't use the MLE and cap space in the same season.
TGY dropping the guillotine on apa. But people have bad takes. I also was willing to trade Kawhi for a great haul. In fact, I'm still not convinced the Spurs don't win in 2013 and 2014 with Ariza and Porter over Kawhi. But obviously, the Spurs were right to keep their young star.
Harlem was a huge Green hater for most of the first couple seasons. He and I used to spar over Danny all the time. I was in favor of trading Tony for Valanciunas back in the day. Happens.
Just because your opinion matters, I'll respond. That thread was specifically made in response to someones opinion about Bradley Beal being better than Kawhi Leonard. It was a top player list in the NBA forum which a few of the peeps here some to have agreed.
It was a sarcasm thread.
Kinda sucks that I have to admit this now because I was enjoying the hits and bumps on my thread last night. Thought the thread would blow up to 10 pages in one day.. Still some time tough.
Biggest Kawhi hater on the board, trying to spin the gameplan route.Just because your opinion matters, I'll respond. That thread was specifically made in response to someones opinion about Bradley Beal being better than Kawhi Leonard. It was a top player list in the NBA forum which a few of the peeps here some to have agreed.
It was a sarcasm thread.
Kinda sucks that I have to admit this now because I was enjoying the hits and bumps on my thread last night. Thought the thread would blow up to 10 pages in one day.. Still some time tough.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225796
Someone even made a thread about me, again. That's like the 20th Apo thread in less than a month
lol sadI game planned the whole thing
He slept on it all night and thats the best he could come up with.
No . After that meltdown last night, there's no way to spin it now.He slept on it all night and thats the best he could come up with.
Dude could have made the claim immediately to save face. Not now.
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